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Old 01-10-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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And it sounds silly for koreans like me. But if European Union succeed to unite to one country, Korea and Japan should merge like them
I have a few Korean friends who think (after they initially got over the knee jerk reaction) it's actually not a bad idea if a few ideological issues were overcome.


Let's not kid around, Japanese are basically mainly of Korean ancestry mixed with some Ainu and possibly Chinese blood.


You can obviously tell there are quite a few stark differences say between Japanese and Chinese cultures but not so Japanese and Korean, a lot of outsiders often mistaken both cultures (Japanese and Korean) as the same culture.


If the Japanese decided not to colonise Korea but rather develop it and somehow incorporate them into mainland Japan at the time, it would work a hell of a lot better and lets be honest, a lot of the gripes of today was due to how poorly the Japanese treated the Koreans. Hypothetically, if the Japanese never did conquer Korea back in 1910, this question would be a lot more viable....
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:24 PM
 
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I have a few Korean friends who think (after they initially got over the knee jerk reaction) it's actually not a bad idea if a few ideological issues were overcome.


Let's not kid around, Japanese are basically mainly of Korean ancestry mixed with some Ainu and possibly Chinese blood.


You can obviously tell there are quite a few stark differences say between Japanese and Chinese cultures but not so Japanese and Korean, a lot of outsiders often mistaken both cultures (Japanese and Korean) as the same culture.


If the Japanese decided not to colonise Korea but rather develop it and somehow incorporate them into mainland Japan at the time, it would work a hell of a lot better and lets be honest, a lot of the gripes of today was due to how poorly the Japanese treated the Koreans. Hypothetically, if the Japanese never did conquer Korea back in 1910, this question would be a lot more viable....
I would say Koreans are Korean, and Japanese are Japanese. It is similar as Italian vs Spanish. They r all same Latin people but it feels like they are different race.
And I agree for ur fourth paragraph, but us Koreans are offended cuz of Japanese empire's killing rape and such a bad crimes that they made
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:59 PM
 
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I found out this website is not trustworthy
How did you find out? Without any data or evidences, it is you who is not trustworthy.

He/she used data from an official site.

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ここの人々は非常に賢いため、愚かなネット右翼の発言は鈍感ではありません ^ ^
And you'd better learn proper Japanese.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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And I agree for ur fourth paragraph, but us Koreans are offended cuz of Japanese empire's killing rape and such a bad crimes that they made
Do you know what Koreans did in Vietnam, and still doing in Japan and other countries?
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA, USA
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I have a few Korean friends who think (after they initially got over the knee jerk reaction) it's actually not a bad idea if a few ideological issues were overcome.


Let's not kid around, Japanese are basically mainly of Korean ancestry mixed with some Ainu and possibly Chinese blood.


You can obviously tell there are quite a few stark differences say between Japanese and Chinese cultures but not so Japanese and Korean, a lot of outsiders often mistaken both cultures (Japanese and Korean) as the same culture.


If the Japanese decided not to colonise Korea but rather develop it and somehow incorporate them into mainland Japan at the time, it would work a hell of a lot better and lets be honest, a lot of the gripes of today was due to how poorly the Japanese treated the Koreans. Hypothetically, if the Japanese never did conquer Korea back in 1910, this question would be a lot more viable....
I do see what you are getting at, but I still think you are oversimplifying the similarities between South Koreans and the Japanese. For one thing, it is a bit misleading to state that the Japanese have Korean ancestry. The confusion may come from the fact that the Yayoi people came to Japan from what is now Korea. However, they came at the time before the Korean culture, language developed to its current stage. Rather, the Japanese came from what is now Korea when it was still very much “proto-Korean.” I more accurate statement would be that the Japanese and Korean have some common ancestry. (I will diverge a little and write about genetics which I have simplified-so please forgive the slight divergence, but I believe it is still relevant). From a genetic standpoint, many Japanese males have YDNA Haplogroup O2b which also many Koreans have. But, these Haplogroups can’t be translated to ethnic groups, as Haplogroups goes back thousands of years before certain ethnic groups were formed. The Japanese also have YDNA D (Jomon) which many Ainu have. Other people with YDNA D (but different subclades) are Tibetans and the present people of the Andaman Islands. And to a lesser degree, but still there, there a portion of the Japanese population with YDNA O3, which is supposedly to have originate from what is now China. NOTE: Koreans have largely YDNA O2b and O3. On the side, Mongolians are largely YDNA C3 (since in an earlier post, the idea of an “Altaic” union was brought up).

One of my Korean friends- who has lived in both South Korea and Japan does note the affinity, but also notices the difference between Koreans and Japanese. He is a native Korean speaker and was able to learn Japanese quite quickly- which he credited towards some of the structural similarities between the Korean and Japanese languages. But, he still make a point of the differences between the Japanese and Korean cultures (and will not mistaken each others' culture).
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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ここの人々は非常に賢いため、愚かなネット右翼の発言は鈍感ではありません ^ ^
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And you'd better learn proper Japanese.

If the OP's plan comes to fruition, that sentence will be written in Hangul. (Not that I'll be able to know what it says any better then; but at least I can tell which style of writing is Japanese and which is Korean.)
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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What's next?

Thailand-Burma-Laos,
Vietnam-Cambodia
Indonesia-Malaysia,
India-Bangladesh-Sri Lanka-Nepal-Bhutan,
China-Mongolia.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, CA
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I don't see how Japanese could be written in Hangul.

Hangul was designed with Korean phonetics and phonology in mind. No voiced-unvoiced distinction exists in the script, for example. One must exist in any script used for Japanese, because you can find many minimal pairs with the voicing the difference between the two. I suppose someone could try to use the aspirated-unaspirated characters for the voiced-unvoiced characters, sort of like a reverse version of the way Cantonese is written in Roman characters, but I'm not sure how successful that would be.


Also, for what it's worth, anyone would be insulted to be told that their culture was being taken over by some foreign culture. This is especially true when there is an implication, as we see in a couple of posts here, that one of the countries involved is somehow better and would be used to "develop" the other. That's just asking for an armed revolution.


theunbrainwashed, I should have said "adapted," not designed.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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How did you find out? Without any data or evidences, it is you who is not trustworthy.

He/she used data from an official site.



And you'd better learn proper Japanese.
In the website that character has nida. The chinky racist picture.
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Old 01-11-2016, 07:17 PM
 
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Do you know what Koreans did in Vietnam, and still doing in Japan and other countries?

Would you mind give all of us not familiar with Japanese-Korean relations a little background?
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