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Old 03-01-2016, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Not silly at all, both are enemies of the government. Different governments have different sorts of enemies though.

In the US, criticizing the president does not make you an enemy of the government, for example.
It's not silly in the sense of being an 'enemy' to the government, it's bad comparison because the situations are completely different.

Snowden went to Hong Kong to disclose the information he had, China refused to grant him asylum in order not to **** off the States. The US didn't try to send some secret agents to break into his hotel then arrest him, the worst thing they did was to pressure Hong Kong to deport him back to the US, which Hong Kong authorities did not do. Snowden then took a flight to Moscow and has remained there ever since.

In the cases of China, they simply broke into the houses in a foreign country then took them back to China. Such action is of complete lack of respect of other country's sovereignty and jurisdiction. In the latter case the subjected person is also a Swedish citizen whose only connection with China as of now is his skin colour, which is more similar to Lillehammer affair or the North Korean abductions of Japanese citizens.

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And this is the reason why every Chinese here on CD never stands against Chinese Communist Party.
Lol no. Every Chinese here never stands against CCP simply because they freakin' love it.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:58 PM
 
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It's not silly in the sense of being an 'enemy' to the government, it's bad comparison because the situations are completely different.

Snowden went to Hong Kong to disclose the information he had, China refused to grant him asylum in order not to **** off the States. The US didn't try to send some secret agents to break into his hotel then arrest him, the worst thing they did was to pressure Hong Kong to deport him back to the US, which Hong Kong authorities did not do. Snowden then took a flight to Moscow and has remained there ever since.

In the cases of China, they simply broke into the houses in a foreign country then took them back to China. Such action is of complete lack of respect of other country's sovereignty and jurisdiction. In the latter case the subjected person is also a Swedish citizen whose only connection with China as of now is his skin colour, which is more similar to Lillehammer affair or the North Korean abductions of Japanese citizens.


Lol no. Every Chinese here never stands against CCP simply because they freakin' love it.
You forgot a president's aircraft was searched because rumor said Snowden was on that plane?
China won't do that at least.
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:13 PM
 
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Not every Chinese support the CCP.
I agree. Many Chinese hate CCP actually.

The problem is they can't express their real thoughts in public.
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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Snowden was an American citizen at the time he fled. The US can prosecute it's own citizens. China is kidnapping dissenters who are foreign nationals which is a completely different animal. That's the difference.
I believe many of us understand what you write, however, Han Chinese people don't care about that at all. They tend to simply ignore laws.
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:01 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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And this is the reason why every Chinese here on CD never stands against Chinese Communist Party.
The likelihood of a Chinese political dissenter from Mainland China on random America-based, English-language forum of a site whose main purpose is to consolidate US census information is pretty slim, chief. I think you need to rethink what sites you're going to if you're looking for Chinese on CD who are vehemently anti-CCP. Even with that being said, there have been numerous Chinese, though not necessarily Mainland Chinese nationals, who are on this site.

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I believe many of us understand what you write, however, Han Chinese people don't care about that at all. They tend to simply ignore laws.
That's sort of odd to make such blanket statements about Han Chinese.
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Old 03-28-2016, 08:43 PM
 
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No idea why she thought that she'd be safe in a dictatorship like Thailand. They are even more authoritarian than the CCP.
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