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Old 05-20-2016, 06:48 AM
 
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I have found China one of the more difficult places to live (language barrier and pollution) and look forward to going to another part of world in a few months (middle East) to teach/work. Will be interesting to see if the same issues remain but at least there will be many more expats. It will also be interesting to return to USA for a month ago over summer and see how I feel.
Can a Chinese live in the US without speaking any English?
What did you expect?
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:34 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Actually, you would be surprised how many people in the US don't speak English. Taught ESL in Chinatown one summer and there were plenty of older people who had no reason to speak English.
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:45 AM
 
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Actually, you would be surprised how many people in the US don't speak English. Taught ESL in Chinatown one summer and there were plenty of older people who had no reason to speak English.
True, but they live with relatives, in a community with a lot of Chinese. And their life is still pretty boring by my standards. They cannot order in a non-Chinese restaurant, cannot watch a movie in the theater, and cannot buy a train ticket to travel...
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Actually, you would be surprised how many people in the US don't speak English. Taught ESL in Chinatown one summer and there were plenty of older people who had no reason to speak English.
If you're not staying long term I don't see the point for you to learn Mandarin if you're not interested. It's an entirely different system (therefore difficult to learn) and it's not like you'd have any chance using it in the future.
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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I have found China one of the more difficult places to live (language barrier and pollution) and look forward to going to another part of world in a few months (middle East) to teach/work. Will be interesting to see if the same issues remain but at least there will be many more expats. It will also be interesting to return to USA for a month ago over summer and see how I feel.
The ME will be very different from China, perhaps boring unless you are in Dubai. The pace of work and life is amazing different from Asia.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Looking forward to it - and the nice thing about the middle east is that it's close to East Asia (meaning only 5 hours to Hong Kong) if we need to come back here. Yes, the hardest thing about Chinese are the tones and learning characters. Grammar is relatively easy.
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Big Bayou
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The ME will be very different from China, perhaps boring unless you are in Dubai. The pace of work and life is amazing different from Asia.
I considered Dubai. I still have it on the back of my mind for the future.

A buddy of mine works in Doha, Qatar teaching English. He teaches 4 hour long blocks a day for $12,000 usd a month plus housing on a compound provided. Hes making $144,000 a year working 20 hour weeks with food as his only expense. The only reason I didn't follow him is because the school apparently has to sign off on his exit visa and won't do it until he completes his contract. That makes me nervous even if it is common.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:32 PM
 
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I considered Dubai. I still have it on the back of my mind for the future.

A buddy of mine works in Doha, Qatar teaching English. He teaches 4 hour long blocks a day for $12,000 usd a month plus housing on a compound provided. Hes making $144,000 a year working 20 hour weeks with food as his only expense. The only reason I didn't follow him is because the school apparently has to sign off on his exit visa and won't do it until he completes his contract. That makes me nervous even if it is common.
Exit visa? What's that?
I never know you need any visa to leave a place.
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Exit visa? What's that?
I never know you need any visa to leave a place.
You need one for China, it applies to Chinese citizens but foreigners I don't know. In Russia, you need an exit visa
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Big Bayou
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Exit visa? What's that?
I never know you need any visa to leave a place.
Apparently some Middle Eastern Countries can prevent you from leaving. A google search for "exit visa Qatar" turns up some rather interesting results. It doesn't seem common at all, but apparently there have been rare cases where people were refused permission to exit by their sponsor (employer)

Exit visa!can it be denied? | Qatar Living
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