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Old 06-12-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Thanks for pointing that out.

If I don't know what classifies as regional cooking in my home country then I certainly won't in China. I just don't have the gift of good memory (which is why my husband got the fancy job and I didn't).
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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Thanks for pointing that out.

If I don't know what classifies as regional cooking in my home country then I certainly won't in China. I just don't have the gift of good memory (which is why my husband got the fancy job and I didn't).
You need a good memory to learn a foreign language. I bet your memory's fine. If it's not, you won't do well at your language study.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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You need a good memory to learn a foreign language. I bet your memory's fine. If it's not, you won't do well at your language study.
My degree was in Spanish, but I didn't practice it after graduation. I have forgotten a lot of it as a result. However, once re-exposed it comes back again quickly.

I assume the same will happen with learning Chinese. I will remember it as long as it's reinforced..
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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My degree was in Spanish, but I didn't practice it after graduation. I have forgotten a lot of it as a result. However, once re-exposed it comes back again quickly.

I assume the same will happen with learning Chinese. I will remember it as long as it's reinforced..
That's normal. And it means you have a good, functional memory.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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The big challenge is vocabulary, because there is next to zero cognates with European languages. Even new words like computer, internet, psychology and cancer have Chinese roots with no connection to English.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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The big challenge is vocabulary, because there is next to zero cognates with European languages. Even new words like computer, internet, psychology and cancer have Chinese roots with no connection to English.
But that makes it all the more fun and fascinating. The Chinese words for some electronic things are related (which makes them easy to learn), and show inventiveness on the part of the Chinese. It's much better to make up words in the language than borrow words from other languages; it maintains the authenticity of the language.


Telephone: "electric speech"
Computer: "electric brain"
Television: "electric pictures"


I think that's very cool.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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But that makes it all the more fun and fascinating. The Chinese words for some electronic things are related (which makes them easy to learn), and show inventiveness on the part of the Chinese. It's much better to make up words in the language than borrow words from other languages; it maintains the authenticity of the language.


Telephone: "electric speech"
Computer: "electric brain"
Television: "electric pictures"


I think that's very cool.
Television would be electric vision, which is kinda like television.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:54 PM
 
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When you go into an American grocery store they will separate ingredients and group them according to if they are commonly found in certain areas of the world. The two most common ones I see are "Asian" and "Hispanic", but they also group European, Indian and Jewish foods in some places as well, and sometimes there will also be a sign for these groups, but most often not. As you can imagine, in the "Asian" section that is where you go to get your sesame oil, soy sauce, rice noodles, oyster sauce, rice wine vinegar, etc. I go to the "Hispanic" section to get my tortillas, refried beans (I usually make my own), green chilis, dried peppers (if I make my own salsa rojo), enchilada sauce, salsas, moles, dried corn husks, etc. This is also where they store the imported brands from those areas of the world. I am not familiar with the Asian section as I am the Hispanic food brands. In the Hispanic grocery aisles you find names like Bimbo, La Victoria, Abuela, San Mateo, etc..

Hispanic food includes a lot of pinto or black beans, long grain white rice, tomato, jalapeno, masa harina, banana, cumin, chiles, white onions, garlic, green onions, corn tortillas (Texmex uses flour tortillas), they like to make pico de gallo and salsas.

So when I say I want to familiarize myself with "Asian" foods I mean I want to learn how to use all the ingredients that my grocery store puts in the Asian section of the store. I mean nothing else by it.
They really need to rename that section Mexican, because none of the foods you listed are normally eaten where I'm from
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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They really need to rename that section Mexican, because none of the foods you listed are normally eaten where I'm from
I'm only listing the foods that I buy from the "Hispanic foods" aisle and since I was raised near the US/Mexican border and married a Mexican I try to make many dishes that my husband and I have enjoyed for all our lives.. Tex-mex and a few very basic Mexican dishes. I've only been as far down south as Costa Rica and even there we ate a lot of rice and beans... but like southern Mexico we had more black beans and slightly different spices like coriander.

Perhaps they have some ingredients that you are more familiar with??? It's all about numbers really.. no doubt that Mexicans make up most of the Hispanic population in the US so it would only make sense that grocers stock more of what Mexicans typically eat.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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It's official! My husband has accepted a job offer that will eventually lead us to Shenzhen.

Although he'll be starting here and working through the American subsidiary soon, we won't actually make the move until late spring/early summer of 2017, so my children and I have a full year to prepare!

I want to learn to as much as possible about the culture, history and language.. what sorts of resources would you recommend?

Our community college offers introductory Chinese (and pinyin) and it's pretty close by... would this be preferred over a private company that caters to business professionals and tourists?
Private lessons would be the most individualized and probably the best way for a beginner to learn any language including Chinese and that would be the only reason to consider a private company for language lessons over a community college/university Chinese language class.

Also if you want to use social media and have full access to all websites while you are in China, I suggest subscribe to a VPN provider before arriving in China.
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