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Old 07-18-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Too late, no matter what the UN decision..China will do everything what they want there. and the stupid thing is, Philippines way to long on their comfort-zone bcoz they think that US always be on their side. well, there's no eternal friends, only eternal interests.. that was stupid, meanwhile their present on SSC just using an obsolete thing against China..?? Duuhhhh...useless, you are way to weak. Economy sanction ? do it...even the US never dare to do that against China. it's About Time A WW-3 will happen.

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Old 07-18-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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No, the main thing is that the US or post-colonialist nations can't on the one hand denounce other countries for screwing over and oppressing others, and on the other doing exactly the same thing themselves.
More people are talking about the US than they are about China, the Philippines, or Vietnam here, beause it's an easy deflection.

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Switzerland can denounce China for the 9 dash line. Austria can. Argentina can. Zimbabwe can. The Philippines of course can.
The presiding arbitrator was Ghanian.

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The US CANNOT. It should look at itself in the mirror before all the "it is about justice" "we want to protect the freedom of navigation" BS. it should stop screwing everyone that doesn't suit its "national interest" before accusing anyone else. What a hypocritical, self-entitled and disgraceful nation.
A hypocritical, self-entitled, and disgraceful nation? Perhaps. Regardless, in this case, they're right. They're saying the exact same things that these other nations who are "right" did. Quit making it America's problem when it's a problem that China pressed against its neighbors.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Too late, no matter what the UN decision..China will do everything what they want there. and the stupid thing is, Philippines way to long on their comfort-zone bcoz they think that US always be on their side. well, there's no eternal friends, only eternal interests.. that was stupid, meanwhile their present on SSC just using an obsolete thing against China..?? Duuhhhh...useless, you are way to weak. Economy sanction ? do it...even the US never dare to do that against China. it's About Time A WW-3 will happen.
The Chinese wouldn't dare to have economic sanctions against the US, either, so more or less, everyone is going to grumble at one another and things will stay the same. China can build as many islands as they want, and can put as many missiles as they want on them: the US is gonna keep sailing its ships and flying its planes over there at the request of the friendly nations whose waters are being invaded, and China isn't dumb enough to do anything about it.

They'll raise a bunch of banners, get a bunch of brainwashed young university students who don't have any actual ability to think critically to shout a lot of slogans about destroying America, maybe throw a brick through the window of my shop or something because I'm American, boycott KFC, smash iPhones, maybe tip over a Chevy and beat up the Chinese guy driving it. But you know what they won't do? Use their military to enforce anything. The powers that be know what would actually happen if they did.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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You lost me. In any case, China should ignore this farce and put surface to air missiles right on Scarborough reef, once it's made into a mIlitry base island. And it should declare an air ID zone over the SCS.
hope they try to put up one too. so that they get embarrass again and again every time they are disregarded
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Old 07-18-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Chinese AIDZ: "Unidentified aircraft, identify yourself."
American Aircraft: "America."
CAIDZ: "This is Chinese airspace, leave immediately."
AA: "This is Filipino/Vietnamese/International airspace."
CAIDZ: "No it isn't. This is Chinese airspace! We have controlled this ocean for thousands of years!"
AA: "Whatever. No you haven't."
CAIDZ: "Leave immediately!"
AA: "No."
CAIDZ: "You arrogant bastards! You think because small, useless nations no one cares about say you can use it, you can?"
AA: "If that's what makes you feel better."
CAIDZ: "Imperialist running dogs! Leave now!"
AA: "Yeah, we're running dogs, haha. Running right over your airspace."
CAIDZ: "Everyone in the world hates you!"
AA: "Till they need us."
CAIDZ: "Your arrogance will be your downfall!"
AA: "We just flew over your island."
CAIDZ: "Only because we let you."
AA: "Whatever."
CAIDZ: "China is #1!"
AA: "America, f-yeah!"

...And not a single shot was fired.
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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Too late, no matter what the UN decision..China will do everything what they want there. and the stupid thing is, Philippines way to long on their comfort-zone bcoz they think that US always be on their side. well, there's no eternal friends, only eternal interests.. that was stupid, meanwhile their present on SSC just using an obsolete thing against China..?? Duuhhhh...useless, you are way to weak. Economy sanction ? do it...even the US never dare to do that against China. it's About Time A WW-3 will happen.
It is NOT a UN decision. The United nations was not involved.
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:02 PM
 
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A hypocritical, self-entitled, and disgraceful nation? Perhaps. Regardless, in this case, they're right. They're saying the exact same things that these other nations who are "right" did. Quit making it America's problem when it's a problem that China pressed against its neighbors.
They may be right about this, just like the world was right about not invading Iraq. So?


How much is being right worth in international relations? Can you really accuse someone of violating international laws when you break it all the time? You are saying "yes, I can".
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Chinese AIDZ: "Unidentified aircraft, identify yourself."
American Aircraft: "America."
CAIDZ: "This is Chinese airspace, leave immediately."
AA: "This is Filipino/Vietnamese/International airspace."
CAIDZ: "No it isn't. This is Chinese airspace! We have controlled this ocean for thousands of years!"
AA: "Whatever. No you haven't."
CAIDZ: "Leave immediately!"
AA: "No."
CAIDZ: "You arrogant bastards! You think because small, useless nations no one cares about say you can use it, you can?"
AA: "If that's what makes you feel better."
CAIDZ: "Imperialist running dogs! Leave now!"
AA: "Yeah, we're running dogs, haha. Running right over your airspace."
CAIDZ: "Everyone in the world hates you!"
AA: "Till they need us."
CAIDZ: "Your arrogance will be your downfall!"
AA: "We just flew over your island."
CAIDZ: "Only because we let you."
AA: "Whatever."
CAIDZ: "China is #1!"
AA: "America, f-yeah!"

...And not a single shot was fired.
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Old 07-18-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 415_s2k View Post
Chinese AIDZ: "Unidentified aircraft, identify yourself."
American Aircraft: "America."
CAIDZ: "This is Chinese airspace, leave immediately."
AA: "This is Filipino/Vietnamese/International airspace."
CAIDZ: "No it isn't. This is Chinese airspace! We have controlled this ocean for thousands of years!"
AA: "Whatever. No you haven't."
CAIDZ: "Leave immediately!"
AA: "No."
CAIDZ: "You arrogant bastards! You think because small, useless nations no one cares about say you can use it, you can?"
AA: "If that's what makes you feel better."
CAIDZ: "Imperialist running dogs! Leave now!"
AA: "Yeah, we're running dogs, haha. Running right over your airspace."
CAIDZ: "Everyone in the world hates you!"
AA: "Till they need us."
CAIDZ: "Your arrogance will be your downfall!"
AA: "We just flew over your island."
CAIDZ: "Only because we let you."
AA: "Whatever."
CAIDZ: "China is #1!"
AA: "America, f-yeah!"

...And not a single shot was fired.
Didn't the Chinese sailed their warships into US waters too a year ago ? And the Chinese regularly enter Japanese waters around the main islands, and never paid the Japanese air defense id zone any attention....so what's all this fuss? Nobody recognize anyone's Id zone. The point is that great powers don't directly challenge each other. I bet the US will never touch any Chinese islands, and the Japanese will never touch Chinese su31s flying over the diaoyus.
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Old 07-18-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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Too late, no matter what the UN decision..China will do everything what they want there. and the stupid thing is, Philippines way to long on their comfort-zone bcoz they think that US always be on their side. well, there's no eternal friends, only eternal interests.. that was stupid, meanwhile their present on SSC just using an obsolete thing against China..?? Duuhhhh...useless, you are way to weak. Economy sanction ? do it...even the US never dare to do that against China. it's About Time A WW-3 will happen.

I don't know why the Chinese don't just tow this junk off the reef. Beijing is too wishy washy. If it were Putin, that wreck would have been blown up years ago along with all the filipino squatters onboard.
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