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Old 10-21-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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That leaves South Korea and Singapore as the obvious minions of US in Asia left I suppose.
A minion of the US? Clearly a thread started by someone that doesn't know much about things. Probably listened to too much Duterte propaganda. It's called being allies.

If the Filipinos let the country turn into, and/or be controlled by a communist country under the completely insane dictator Duterte. I guarantee you at least half of it's population will be swimming to the U.S., or die trying.

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Forget the US. What amazes me, being to Asia and talking to the locals, is how many of these countries distrust it's neighboring countries.
I imagine they trust Thailand for one example, but are you serious? Does anyone in their right mind trust China or North Korea?
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Old 10-21-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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I imagine they trust Thailand for one example, but are you serious? Does anyone in their right mind trust China or North Korea?
In terms of the South China Sea it's almost like China vs. all of the rest of South East Asia.

But I wasn't talking PRC or DPRK. I was more talking in terms of Thailand vs. Malaysia, Cambodia vs. Vietnam, Malaysia vs. Indonesia. Singapore has an entire military strategy - logistics, forces, armament, defensive points, based on the sole concept of being prepared for an invasion by Malaysia (and holding out until, once again, the US mobilizes to saves it's ass).
I will give you another example - part of the problem with the disappearance of flight MH370 is all these countries didn't trust each other with disclosing radar information. Thailand and Indonesia for instance didn't want Malaysia and it's other neighbors to know it's radar capabilities.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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I imagine they trust Thailand for one example
Until 2014 they did, not anymore.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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I'm happy we are getting uninvolved in Philippines future squabbles...we also need to pull out of S. korea, Japan, Germany, Middle East.
So, you want hundreds of thousands of US soldiers to lose their jobs.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Asia (2050):

Russia (Red)
Turkey (White)
Arabia (Black)
Persia (Green)
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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So, you want hundreds of thousands of US soldiers to lose their jobs.
I support a strong military (and I'm a veteran) but we are spending too much, we are too involved and committed around the world. I'm for pulling our troops out from around the world and only protecting ourselves.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:41 AM
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That leaves South Korea and Singapore as the obvious minions of US in Asia left I suppose.
Right. Its now a minion of China. Not a big improvement.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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If they can make it work then more power to them. I doubt things will improve with this totally rash and poorly-conceived and organized pivot - to a nation that had been openly mocking and antagonizing them up until a few weeks ago, no less.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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If they can make it work then more power to them. I doubt things will improve with this totally rash and poorly-conceived and organized pivot - to a nation that had been openly mocking and antagonizing them up until a few weeks ago, no less.
At first I thought it was like others said....he's playing the anti-US card because he thinks it will help him with the US, and China both. The problem with that is his timing and the way he is going about is way off. Obama simply doesn't care he's going Lame Duck and the US ambassador to the Philippines is changing as well. I don't even think any of that anymore I just think he truly hates the US. No good will come of that and the Philippines is going to suffer because of it.
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Old 10-21-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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According to an online Wall Street Journal article (accessible via paywall), Duterte's dislike of the US was influenced by his Muslim grandmother and a Communist professor at the university he attended.
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