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Old 04-12-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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People in the Gulf view Asians like some people in the US view Mexicans.

and these are the people of the gulf:



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Old 04-15-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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Another big reason: British colonialism completely destroyed India's domestic industries. Britain had cheap manufacturing goods and gunboat policies for Indian market starting the colonial era in India. That destroyed Indian's domestic artisan industries. India became a poorest country from a richest country with colonialism. After that, Indians became soulless people of whitemen's slaves until today.
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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I think at the end of the day, what matters most is if people of a country are happy or not?

India ranks at 140 on the list of Happiest people and Happiest nations in the world.

IMO, there are now signs of fascism slowly creeping into the country under the rule Modi govt.

It looks like itís only gonna get worse as India remains one of the VERY, VERY few countries in the world where religious extremists are ruling the country.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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1. Fractured - The sense of an Indian nation has never been there, except for a few decades (Mauryan Empire) in thousands of years of history. Even going back to ancient India (3000BC), many kingdoms dotted present day India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. Compared to China while historically being fractured, the sense of unity has been at the forefront of Chinese politics and beliefs going back hundreds of years.

2. Religion & Language - Religion has caused divisions in the nation today and was the main reason for the partition of undivided India in 1947. Various ethnic groups (ex. Bengalis and Punjabis) in South Asia are still divided between two nations. Hinduism (while being secular in essence), is built upon the archaic caste system which still dominates the country. Language has also caused just as many divisions in the nation. India is dominated by two language groups (Indo-European and Dravidian) and the frequent domination of the Hindustani (Hindi/Urdu) language greatly angers the southern Dravidian population. Even within the Indo-European languages there is great division at state level.

3. Corruption - Doesn't need much expanding.

4. Infrastructure - Democracy hasn't allowed for vast expansion and upgrades to India's creaking infrastructure (mostly inherited from British times). Historically, India had very good infrastructure relative to the world(a common joke highlights the fact that India had a better sewage system in the Indus Valley civilization compared to today), however centuries of war, loot and starvation have set the nation behind. In the 70 years following independence, infrastructure expansions have been left behind in comparison with a massive population expansion, while slums featuring open sewers and rampant disease witness unchecked expansion in cities like Bombay and Calcutta. Ironically, Kerala (a southern state), has mostly been left unscathed from these problems thanks to decades of communist rule and large government, and today is the only region in India with high human development.

5. Trade - One of the reasons China advanced at great speed was thanks to the special status it got from the USA soon after 1972.
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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1. Fractured - The sense of an Indian nation has never been there, except for a few decades (Mauryan Empire) in thousands of years of history. Even going back to ancient India (3000BC), many kingdoms dotted present day India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. Compared to China while historically being fractured, the sense of unity has been at the forefront of Chinese politics and beliefs going back hundreds of years.

2. Religion & Language - Religion has caused divisions in the nation today and was the main reason for the partition of undivided India in 1947. Various ethnic groups (ex. Bengalis and Punjabis) in South Asia are still divided between two nations. Hinduism (while being secular in essence), is built upon the archaic caste system which still dominates the country. Language has also caused just as many divisions in the nation. India is dominated by two language groups (Indo-European and Dravidian) and the frequent domination of the Hindustani (Hindi/Urdu) language greatly angers the southern Dravidian population. Even within the Indo-European languages there is great division at state level.

3. Corruption - Doesn't need much expanding.

4. Infrastructure - Democracy hasn't allowed for vast expansion and upgrades to India's creaking infrastructure (mostly inherited from British times). Historically, India had very good infrastructure relative to the world(a common joke highlights the fact that India had a better sewage system in the Indus Valley civilization compared to today), however centuries of war, loot and starvation have set the nation behind. In the 70 years following independence, infrastructure expansions have been left behind in comparison with a massive population expansion, while slums featuring open sewers and rampant disease witness unchecked expansion in cities like Bombay and Calcutta. Ironically, Kerala (a southern state), has mostly been left unscathed from these problems thanks to decades of communist rule and large government, and today is the only region in India with high human development.

5. Trade - One of the reasons China advanced at great speed was thanks to the special status it got from the USA soon after 1972.
If you have to destroy India, you have to destroy their Gods, their epics, and their idol culture. But problem is new Gods keep popping up. Missionaries are successful to some extent in converting in states like Andhra, who do anything for money and in North East.

Sense of Indian nation has been there since vedic ages. Its a British BS to spread such propaganda that there is no unified notion of India . Even 1000's of years ago the country has spanned from Kashmir to Sri Lanka to Tibet and there are literary evidences.

More than any of the above factors, its the material desire of the masses that will bring any country down.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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If you have to destroy India, you have to destroy their Gods, their epics, and their idol culture. But problem is new Gods keep popping up. Missionaries are successful to some extent in converting in states like Andhra, who do anything for money and in North East.

Sense of Indian nation has been there since vedic ages. Its a British BS to spread such propaganda that there is no unified notion of India . Even 1000's of years ago the country has spanned from Kashmir to Sri Lanka to Tibet and there are literary evidences.

More than any of the above factors, its the material desire of the masses that will bring any country down.
maybe they are referring to unified "India". even kashmir was ruled by a prince during the british era
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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If you have to destroy India, you have to destroy their Gods, their epics, and their idol culture. But problem is new Gods keep popping up. Missionaries are successful to some extent in converting in states like Andhra, who do anything for money and in North East.

Sense of Indian nation has been there since vedic ages. Its a British BS to spread such propaganda that there is no unified notion of India . Even 1000's of years ago the country has spanned from Kashmir to Sri Lanka to Tibet and there are literary evidences.

More than any of the above factors, its the material desire of the masses that will bring any country down.
That's not really what it's about. India lacks a cohesive unity because its an amalgamation of hundreds of different cultures. Half of the population doesn't even speak Hindi, the official language. The unity isn't so much about geography here, but has more to do with culture.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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That's not really what it's about. India lacks a cohesive unity because its an amalgamation of hundreds of different cultures. Half of the population doesn't even speak Hindi, the official language. The unity isn't so much about geography here, but has more to do with culture.

Sanskrit, a proto-south indian language, and english should be the only official languages. Romanize all the scripts. Do yoga and kalari. problems solved.


or just do what communist chinese do and put everyone in concentration camps and rule through the barrel of a gun.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:19 PM
 
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Sanskrit, a proto-south indian language, and english should be the only official languages. Romanize all the scripts. Do yoga and kalari. problems solved.


or just do what communist chinese do and put everyone in concentration camps and rule through the barrel of a gun.
Sanskrit is not a south indian language. It's one of the oldest languages in the Indo-European language family; a group in which languages such as modern English, Persian and Hindi fall under.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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That's not really what it's about. India lacks a cohesive unity because its an amalgamation of hundreds of different cultures. Half of the population doesn't even speak Hindi, the official language. The unity isn't so much about geography here, but has more to do with culture.
Exactly what I alluded to in my earlier post. Present day India itself is fractured enough, never-mind any sense of pan-south asian unity. Only during a handful of decades in an otherwise thousand-year plus history has there ever been a united "Indian nation".
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