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Old 12-31-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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I know that Guangzhou recently has been receiving such a large influx of Mandarin speakers from all different parts of China.

Does anyone know if the new comers are mostly concentrated in some parts or are they just mixed all over the city with the original Guangzhou Cantonese speaking residents?
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:56 AM
 
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They're mixed pretty much all over. All the districts around the Zhujiang (Tianhe, Yuexiu, Haizhu, Liwan, etc) as well as Panyu to the South and Baiyun to the North are all pretty well mixrd - there's not really any district or 'hood that the millions of non-Cantonese congregate in, they're just everywhere. The CBD area has pockets of old-school Cantonese language and culture, usually in the older villages that have yet to redevelop, but those are the exception and not the norm. As the villages redevelop, the new buildings tend to be dominated by non-locals who are mostly Mandarin speakers, so major, newer developments such as Liede Cun, Pazhou, or Zhujiang Di Jing are pan-Chinese and even have a sizeable foreign population, while older places like Tianhe Nan, in the middle of the CBD, are probably 70/80% Cantonese. If they redeveloped Tianhe Nan, that would change.

There are bigger swaths of Haizhu that are predominantly Cantonese, but you will still find them to be largely integrated with people from other parts of China.
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:45 AM
 
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This question is moot. People in China are free (or almost free) to move across the country, and Guangzhou has one of the largest cities receives plenty of everywhere, and there is no Cantonese and Mandarin quarter.


Plus, OP should realize not everyone outside the cantonese speaking region speak Mandarin, that is a mistake too many people make, as if if a Chinese doesn't speak Cantonese, he must speak Mandarine. So it is impossible to answer where do the Mandarin speakers live in Guangzhou.

As you can see in the map, Cantonese region (yue, in green) is a very small part of China. There are many others.

Additionally, the idea of "Mandarin" is misleading. For example, my family comes from the region called "east mandarin" in the map, but to call it "mandarin" is not exactly accurate, but someone from Beijing would understand 5% of the language at most. So when you ask "Mandarin", what does it exactly mean? Is someone from Sichuang considered the same "mandarin" as someone from Tianjin? that's culturally miles apart.

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Old 01-20-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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if a Cantonese moves to Shanghai, he becomes the Mandarin speaker?(local Shanghainese speak Wu Chinese)
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:34 AM
 
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if a Cantonese moves to Shanghai, he becomes the Mandarin speaker?(local Shanghainese speak Wu Chinese)
Yes. (Standard) Mandarin is required in all schools of mainland China, including those in Tibet and Xinjiang. So when two Chinese persons cannot communicate in their dialects, they use Mandarin.
Sometimes, a person understands a dialect but does not speak it. In my family, for example, my father always speaks standard Mandarin but my mother and I always speak a dialect. My father understands it 100% but does not speak it.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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I know that Guangzhou recently has been receiving such a large influx of Mandarin speakers from all different parts of China.

Does anyone know if the new comers are mostly concentrated in some parts or are they just mixed all over the city with the original Guangzhou Cantonese speaking residents?
Shenzhen is a huge one..if you are thinking of just 'within this cantonese-speaking region'.

Shenzhen is right next to HOng Kong, and the city has a population nearing that of Hong Kong itself....and most of them came from much further north. You'll hear a lot of Mandarin in Shenzhen, for sure. It is also more of a new city, i.e. lots of unwalkable areas built far cars, and lacking that traditional 'walkable core' that you might find in Guangzhou itself.
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:07 AM
 
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Shenzhen has a population mainly from Hunan, Jiangxi, Hubei, Henan, Guangxi, Sichuan, Chongqing etc.




New comers in Shenzhen and Guangzhou are in every districts. Locals have their own villages in the cities dating back to dyansty times, but there are newcoming who have moved the villages.


Friction between locals and newcomers are stronger in Guangzhou than Shenzhen as the locals are richer and well established.
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