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Old 09-01-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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Ah I see. But there's TPLEx right or which part were you coming from?
im coming frm the northern tip of Luzon, that's 660+kms from Manila. those expressways are just what 200kms?
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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im coming frm the northern tip of Luzon, that's 660+kms from Manila. those expressways are just what 200kms?
More or less yes. Though it would make sense since the northern portion has a bit lesser population and traffic volume only merges and volume adds up when already approaching central Luzon where the expressways are currently built. However, I understand you maybe used to driving the old highway esp if only doing the usual bus passenger route and while the old route is still being upgraded might as well try the newer and more widened route .
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:58 AM
 
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More or less yes. Though it would make sense since the northern portion has a bit lesser population and traffic volume only merges and volume adds up when already approaching central Luzon where the expressways are currently built. However, I understand you maybe used to driving the old highway esp if only doing the usual bus passenger route and while the old route is still being upgraded might as well try the newer and more widened route .
Region 1 and 2 highways are already congested, even if they have smaller populations compared to Regions 3,4 and 5.

as I said earlier, I have no problems with the expressways. its the 2-lane highways that need fixing. this is where the bulk of travelling is done, whether in you are in Northern Luzon or Bicol or Central Luzon
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:51 PM
 
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intentional homicides (per 100.000 people) indonesia almost at the same level with singapore.


Global Peace index 2017 ranking


Contribution of small and medium-sized enterprises in national economies of South East Asia

Indonesia (2016) = 60.3% of GDP
Singapore (2016) = approximately 50% of GDP
Thailand (2016) = 41.1% of GDP
Vietnam (2017) = 40% of GDP
Malaysia (2016) = 36.9% of GDP
Philippines (2015) = about 33% of GDP

source : https://en.tempo.co/read/news/2016/0...ed-to-Increase
source : https://www.iesingapore.gov.sg/Media...ng-our-economy
source : Thailand: SME 4.0 - Asia IoT Business Platform
source : SME development in Vietnam
source : SMEs contribution to GDP increases to 36.6 per cent in 2016 – BorneoPost Online | Borneo , Malaysia, Sarawak Daily News | Largest English Daily In Borneo
source : http://www.philstar.com/business/201...p-contribution



Brunei and Vietnam have overtaken the Philippines to secure the 5th and 6th positions in the region, respectively. Brunei jumped 12 notches this year, while Indonesia improved by 5 spots. The Philippines, as a result, dropped to 7th out of 9 ASEAN countries ranked by the WEF.

ASEAN NATION'S GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS (2017-2018) RANKING

1. Singapore #3 (-1)
2. Malaysia #23 (+2)
3. Thailand #32 (+2)
4. Indonesia #36 (+5)
5. Brunei #46 (+12)
6. Vietnam #55 (+5)
7. Philippines #56 (+1)
8. Cambodia #94 (-5)
9. Laos #98 (-5)

source : https://www.rappler.com/business/183...index-2017-wef

The world’s most internationally connected airports ranked in new study

source : https://www.moodiedavittreport.com/t...-in-new-study/

Infrastructure Competitiveness Index 2017-2018
source : Global Competitiveness Index 2017-2018 - Reports - World Economic Forum

1. Singapore #2 (+0)
2. Malaysia #22 (+2)
3. Thailand #43 (+6)
4. Indonesia #52 (+8)
5. Brunei Darussalam #60 (+18)
6. Vietnam #79 (+0)
7. Philippines #97 (-2)
8. Lao PDR #102 (+6)
9.Cambodia #106 (+0)

i believe its easy for indonesia to surpase thailand in the next 2 or 3 years. and the tittle of this thread shoule be : Which One Is Progressing Further Right Now: Vietnam Or The Philippines? Acts Of Moving Correctly In The Right Route.
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Old 10-03-2017, 01:59 AM
 
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In papers you may be up there ever since you rebased your GDP. Just wait for us to rebase our GDP too and lets see where you would be positioned to. In reality for those who had been to both and even in pictures and videos, most people would still say Phils is better and with the current trend it is doing better now than Indonesia.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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^^ sorry if my post offended you, the truth is hurt indeed. changing the base year requires a lot of effort and money, especially in developing countries where administrative data are not yet sufficiently available and the FDI in phils not really impressive compare to country like vietnam, thailand. no matter how many times you Rebasing your data base will not improve your position significantly since your competitivnes is OUT of 5 South east asia country.

and i dont take that self-proclaimed by using"people would still say phils is better" since indonesia get alot of number tourist visitors than phils. just make sure you won't overtaken by Cambodia or even Laos when their "Rebased" their GDP since phils already overtaken by Vietnam and Brunei in term of competitivnes. LOL !! you can say whatever you want, im not even indonesian. again, sorry if my post offended you. BYE..
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Keep trying! Even all credit organization puts Indonesia below Phils. Moodys? Standard & Poors? What else? Have you heard of investment grade?


Our FDI maybe smaller now since it does not include the intangible parts of it. Why is Phils GDP growth rate higher than Indonesia and the countries you enumerated the past years? Goes to show that having high FDI doesn't equate to having overall competitiveness. It is just one factor.

If the graphs and tables you provided were reliable, who would in their right mind put Phils just few notches above Laos and Myanmar while the other ASEAN giants are there much much higher. Why would they list Indonesia higher in terms of transportation and infrastructure when they dont even have a working mass transit system yet even in their capital and even anywhere else as of the moment?

Also if many African countries was able to undertake options to rebase their GDPs, why not the Phils. We're just looking for the right timing and momentum. Hopefully once done, we can get the right place we deserve which has been so much humiliated by these so-called economist surveys/organizations.

Having more tourist which btw is only concentrated to Bali doesn't mean Indonesia in general is better. Maybe Bali is better but the question is Indonesia really better off as a whole?
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:14 AM
 
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lol, having higher FDI mean your economy more attractive and competitive than those who having high number of GDP Growth rate where at the same time those country just build their competitivnes and attractivnes on papper-plan year after year.

mass transit system is : A System of large-scale public transportation in a given metropolitan area, typically comprising buses, subways, and elevated trains.

you need to understand first what was that mass transit system. if what comes to your mind indonesia doesn't have that mass transit system like LRT, MRT/Subway. then you seems the only human in this world who think that mass transit system in this world is only LRT/Metro Subway there is BRT system, metro commuter line. there is more than 259 airport in indonesia, and in 5 years alone they just build and revitalization more than 65 new airports across the country which mean their connectivity is better than phils. they also build more than 300km new toll road just less than 3 years from the target new toll road until 2019 is 1.800km. i dont want to mention on how many undergo project out there, its just too much. i hope that's enough for you to understand why they put indonesia high than phils. you have to ask yourself what was your government doing for the last 15-10 years for phils ? i have been to many places in indonesia, its just amazing. from the 97 economy trouble become one of the leading. well at least in the region or in asia someday in the future.



Innovation Index 2017-2018
ASIA & G7


2. USA
3. Israel
5. Germany
8. Japan
9. Singapore
11. Taiwan
12. UK
17. France
18. South Korea
21. Qatar
22. Malaysia
23. Canada
25. UAE
28. China
29. India
31. Indonesia
34. Italy
40. Saudi Arabia
45. Bahrain
46. Jordan
47. Tajikistan
50. Thailand
54. Sri Lanka
60. Pakistan
65. Philippines
66. Iran
71. Vietnam
76. Oman

source : https://www.weforum.org/reports/the-...port-2017-2018
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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[b]lol, having higher FDI mean your economy more attractive and competitive than those who having high number of GDP Growth rate where at the same time those country just build their competitivnes and attractivnes on papper-plan year after year.

mass transit system is : A System of large-scale public transportation in a given metropolitan area, typically comprising buses, subways, and elevated trains.

you need to understand first what was that mass transit system. if what comes to your mind indonesia doesn't have that mass transit system like LRT, MRT/Subway. then you seems the only human in this world who think that mass transit system in this world is only LRT/Metro Subway there is BRT system, metro commuter line. there is more than 259 airport in indonesia, and in 5 years alone they just build and revitalization more than 65 new airports across the country which mean their connectivity is better than phils. they also build more than 300km new toll road just less than 3 years from the target new toll road until 2019 is 1.800km. i dont want to mention on how many undergo project out there, its just too much. i hope that's enough for you to understand why they put indonesia high than phils. you have to ask yourself what was your government doing for the last 15-10 years for phils ? i have been to many places in indonesia, its just amazing. from the 97 economy trouble become one of the leading. well at least in the region or in asia someday in the future.


source : https://www.weforum.org/reports/the-...port-2017-2018
Okay provided your BRT system can be considered a mass rapid transit system which I did not say it isn't. Manila has also BRT exisiting and also on the pipeline albeit still needs refinement. Plus we have 3 elevated trains which Jakarta dont still have and is still uc. Provided that one in Jakarta is finished in 2019, that time we also have finished the new MRT 7 plus the extension to LRT 1 to Cavite which also happens to be named LRT6, that would make them 5 plus one monorail making it 6. Thats 2 vs 6 once Jkt airport line would be finished too. On the BRT part, Manila also would be modernizing that part so that would make it par. The basic railway part, the Northrail is beinv revived which looks like a bit of a bullet train in the making. Subway system, both has on planning stage.



Anyway, here's credit and investment grade ratings for the ASEAN 5 (ranking from highest to lowest)

Moodys
1. Singapore - Aaa
2. Malaysia - A3
3. Thailand - Baa1
4. Philippines - Baa2
5. Indonesia -Baa3
Source: https://countryeconomy.com/ratings/moodys


Fitch
1. Singapore - AAA
2 Malaysia - A-
3. Thailand - BBB+
4. Philippines - BBB-
5. Indonesia - BBB-
Source: https://www.fitchratings.com/site/home


Standard & Poors
1. Singapore - AAA
2. Malaysia - A-
3. Thailand - BBB+
4. Philippines - BBB
5. Indonesia - BBB-
Source: https://www.standardandpoors.com/en_US/web/guest/home

TE(Trading Eocomics) Rating
1. Singapore - 98
2. Malaysia - 66
3. Thailand - 63
4. Philippines - 53
5. Indoensia - 46

Other source
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