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Old 10-25-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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NAIA, as an airport, is fine. Tons of great restaurants in there.

It's no more crowded than anywhere else.

The downside is the taxi touts outside of the terminal, but the airport itself is fine.
The taxi touts are super aggressive. You can build whatever you want, but they really made my airport experiences pretty terrible.

Indonesia, or at least Jakarta versus Manila, definitely seemed more developed and much less seedy. A lot of the overall metrics such as homicide rates, Human Development Index, inequality-adjusted human development index, nominal GDP per capita, and GDP per capita by purchasing power parity all favor Indonesia. However, all except the last two don't favor Indonesia by that much, so I think for countries this populous, it's going to be a lot more about region to region comparisons rather than country to country since I'm sure there's a lot of overlapping areas that have similar degrees of development.

That being said, it does seem like Indonesia is moving in the right direction more than the Philippines are. Certainly, their respective presidents make for an interesting comparison.
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Old 10-25-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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The taxi touts are super aggressive. You can build whatever you want, but they really made my airport experiences pretty terrible.

Indonesia, or at least Jakarta versus Manila, definitely seemed more developed and much less seedy. A lot of the overall metrics such as homicide rates, Human Development Index, inequality-adjusted human development index, nominal GDP per capita, and GDP per capita by purchasing power parity all favor Indonesia. However, all except the last two don't favor Indonesia by that much, so I think for countries this populous, it's going to be a lot more about region to region comparisons rather than country to country since I'm sure there's a lot of overlapping areas that have similar degrees of development.

That being said, it does seem like Indonesia is moving in the right direction more than the Philippines are. Certainly, their respective presidents make for an interesting comparison.

With how your semantics are structured you seem to be bittergourd with Phils and Manila. No wonder.


A poor system can be changed faster than poor infrastructure which can take years.

Check this video about NAIAs improvements, you got more riding options, more orderly private & normal taxis and UBE premium buses now:


https://youtu.be/r_g4KmxM2N0


https://youtu.be/VruZgyDfrKE


https://youtu.be/Vga0Pt1i5Zc
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Old 10-26-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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Development of LRT Palembang, South Sumatera
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Old 10-26-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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Development of modern integrated city of Meikarta, Cikarang, West Java



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Old 10-26-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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With how your semantics are structured you seem to be bittergourd with Phils and Manila. No wonder.


A poor system can be changed faster than poor infrastructure which can take years.

Check this video about NAIAs improvements, you got more riding options, more orderly private & normal taxis and UBE premium buses now:


https://youtu.be/r_g4KmxM2N0


https://youtu.be/VruZgyDfrKE


https://youtu.be/Vga0Pt1i5Zc
You misunderstand. The way the phrasing works is that it’s an emphasis on needing to reel in how aggressive the taxi touts are. They are crazy aggressive against foreigners. That is a statement not about the quality of the airport itself, but of the experience and the lack of any sort of enforced rule or regulation on this.
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:03 AM
 
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The taxi touts are super aggressive. You can build whatever you want, but they really made my airport experiences pretty terrible.
Yeah, so much corruption at the airport.

That's what surprised me about Duterte. He talks about his aggressive anti-corruption campaign, and you'd think he would start with the highly visible airport corruption that hits up every foreigner and local alike, the moment they hit the airport.

I stopped in Manila for a few days back a few months ago, and no changes whatsoever. I'll be back again in December, and see if it has changed yet again.

You have layers upon layers upon layers of official-looking people all over the airport, and before the taxi stands; all trying to rip off foreigners with incredibly overpriced taxis. It seems SO EASY to legislate or enforce, and particularly desirable if you were Duterte to focus on something so VISIBLE.

But, it's ignored.
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Old 10-26-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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Yeah, so much corruption at the airport.

That's what surprised me about Duterte. He talks about his aggressive anti-corruption campaign, and you'd think he would start with the highly visible airport corruption that hits up every foreigner and local alike, the moment they hit the airport.

I stopped in Manila for a few days back a few months ago, and no changes whatsoever. I'll be back again in December, and see if it has changed yet again.

You have layers upon layers upon layers of official-looking people all over the airport, and before the taxi stands; all trying to rip off foreigners with incredibly overpriced taxis. It seems SO EASY to legislate or enforce, and particularly desirable if you were Duterte to focus on something so VISIBLE.

But, it's ignored.
Before seeing a taxi you have to clear customs. And from what I understand that was the first target of President Duterte, getting rid of the bullet scam and other uniformed officials graft.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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Before seeing a taxi you have to clear customs. And from what I understand that was the first target of President Duterte, getting rid of the bullet scam and other uniformed officials graft.
I looked up the dates I was there...August 26-28, 2016.

Duterte's term began June 30, 2016.

I'll be back in Manila again in December, it'll be interesting to see if that has indeed been cleaned up. It wasn't cleaned up within the first two months anyways. But, that was just over a year ago now.
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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Before seeing a taxi you have to clear customs. And from what I understand that was the first target of President Duterte, getting rid of the bullet scam and other uniformed officials graft.


that had been fixed I think. so now, as long as you don't have illegal in your baggage, I submit you don't have a problem with the airport customs, immigration and police.


it is outside that's the problem. the accredited taxis have scumbags in their midst and these are the problems.
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Old 10-26-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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I looked up the dates I was there...August 26-28, 2016.

Duterte's term began June 30, 2016.

I'll be back in Manila again in December, it'll be interesting to see if that has indeed been cleaned up. It wasn't cleaned up within the first two months anyways. But, that was just over a year ago now.
The bullet scam has already been fixed including the aggressive taxis as shown on the youtube videos I posted unless it has came back.
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