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Old 02-07-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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Outside of the similarities. And not relevant to the links between them necessarily. Entirely the surrounding actions of international travel journeys. What is your experience of South Korea, Japan, Taiwan or any realistically applicable knowledge to motivate the understanding of the topic. Japan receives way too much talk from the North American vantage point. People rarely know anything about South Korea. Taiwan might have tentative relatively calm interference from Mainland China, yet enough people are learning the existence of this nation far away. At least outside of mainland Europe where there isn’t adequate reference to Taiwan, and especially not South Korea. Have up other website links, statistical information, demographic analysis, any anecdotes to travels, what you are hearing from people living over there having a residency status, and future main events in the real news media far away.

Annual amount of tourists each year for South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan: International tourism, number of arrivals | Data

First the underrated one called Korea Rep Of Letter K Alphabet on the Database record system: International tourism, number of arrivals | Data 1995: 3,753,000(3.7-3.8 million), 2008: 6,891,000(Near 6.9 million people), 2014: 14,202,000(14.2 million foreigners around)!

More Highly Variable Japan Rather Than Endless Increasing South Korea: 2000: 4,757,000(4.7-4.8 million), 2008: 8,351,000(8.3-8.4 million people), Extreme Oscillation Between 2008-2012, and then dramatic upwards 2014: 13,413,000(13 to 14 million tourists!) Ironic conclusion if South Korea is really more successful than Japan deep down for capturing all of these foreigners somehow. International tourism, number of arrivals | Data

Wow, I can’t believe Taiwan is not having actual representation for the entire International Tourism flow number of arrivals website resource. Just because of China, and the United Nations. Offer alternative legitimate background of the facts for Taiwan tourism entrance. Especially the native Taiwanese poster to tell us the right information source on the World Wide Web!
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Old 02-08-2017, 01:33 AM
 
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Here's a graph for Japan's incoming tourist arrivals.


Here's a graph for Taiwan. 105 means 2016.


Can't find one for Korea.
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Old 02-08-2017, 03:46 AM
 
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^That link isn't working anymore. Here's a new one.


The peach line is outgoing and the blue line is incoming. Again 105 means 2016.



And here's one for incoming tourists by nationality.
Navy = Japan
Pink = Hong Kong & Macau
Orange = Korea
Baby blue = China
Purple = America
Maroon = Europe
Ugly turqoise colour = Southeast Asia
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:51 AM
 
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Japan has slightly more HK tourists every year than US tourists. HK has 7 million people while the US has 3 billion. Americans do not travel internationally as frequently as the Chinese, South Koreans, Taiwanese and Hong Kong people.


Most people in East and Southeast Asia know about South Korea, and more in details about the country than the Americans and the Europeans. South Korea influence is very strong in East and Southeast Asia.


Taiwan is much less visited by people not in East and Southeast Asia. Many European, North American, African , Australian and New Zealand airlines do not fly to Taiwan, but fly to HK, Shanghai, Seoul and Tokyo. Taiwan itself, who speak Mandarin, is less visited by the Mainland Chiense than HK, Macau, South Korea and Japan. Many travellers find Taiwan has less to offer than other Asian destinations. Shoppers are not interested as prefer to shop in HK, South Korea and Taiwan instead. For tropical enjoyment, they goto Southeast Asia instead. Southern Taiwan is very less visited by foreigners, HK and Macau people are the main visitors. Japanese loving visiting Taipei but not Southern Taiwan.
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:52 PM
 
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Here's a graph for Japan's incoming tourist arrivals.

Here's a graph for Taiwan. 105 means 2016.

Can't find one for Korea.
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^That link isn't working anymore. Here's a new one.

The peach line is outgoing and the blue line is incoming. Again 105 means 2016.

And here's one for incoming tourists by nationality.
Navy = Japan
Pink = Hong Kong & Macau
Orange = Korea
Baby blue = China
Purple = America
Maroon = Europe
Ugly turqoise colour = Southeast Asia
For each of these findings, where are these tourists coming from is always main question. Other areas of mainland Asia, or from mainland Europe. Pinpointing down the origins with all of those nations is a key background demographics verification.

What is going on with Japan’s variation swing between 2008-2009, 2010-2011? Was there an economic recession or other motives to discourage foreign visitors? Spiritually uplifting news there is consistent improving of steady stream flow of tourists ever year since the year 2008.

Yay, a record display of Taiwan tourism. Never any declines between the past to future. Even a one million+ increase between a single calendar year. Between the intervals of 1998-1999(4,395,004 people to 5,567,277 1.1 million increase), and 2002-2003(8,016,280 to 9,910,204 1.9 million exponential high before ending up more steady). Diversifying outside of Asia flow to this country.

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Japan has slightly more HK tourists every year than US tourists. HK has 7 million people while the US has 3 billion. Americans do not travel internationally as frequently as the Chinese, South Koreans, Taiwanese and Hong Kong people.

Most people in East and Southeast Asia know about South Korea, and more in details about the country than the Americans and the Europeans. South Korea influence is very strong in East and Southeast Asia.

Taiwan is much less visited by people not in East and Southeast Asia. Many European, North American, African , Australian and New Zealand airlines do not fly to Taiwan, but fly to HK, Shanghai, Seoul and Tokyo. Taiwan itself, who speak Mandarin, is less visited by the Mainland Chiense than HK, Macau, South Korea and Japan. Many travellers find Taiwan has less to offer than other Asian destinations. Shoppers are not interested as prefer to shop in HK, South Korea and Taiwan instead. For tropical enjoyment, they goto Southeast Asia instead. Southern Taiwan is very less visited by foreigners, HK and Macau people are the main visitors. Japanese loving visiting Taipei but not Southern Taiwan.
Woah, even more from Hong Kong’s 7 million than USA’s 300 million people. Controversial Freedoms, and separate status away from China. Liberal policies, even when there is history there. Is tourism to East Asia(Including Taiwan) more popular from North Americans or Mainland Europe tourists right now? Bizarre if Hong Kong, Macau foreigners are more open to other regions of Taiwan compared to the Japanese.
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:29 AM
 
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What is going on with Japan’s variation swing between 2008-2009, 2010-2011? Was there an economic recession or other motives to discourage foreign visitors?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T...ke_and_tsunami
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:14 AM
 
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What is going on with Japan’s variation swing between 2008-2009, 2010-2011? Was there an economic recession or other motives to discourage foreign visitors? Spiritually uplifting news there is consistent improving of steady stream flow of tourists ever year since the year 2008.
2008-2009 is the financial crisis and 2010-2011 is the earthquake and tsunami.

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Yay, a record display of Taiwan tourism. Never any declines between the past to future. Even a one million+ increase between a single calendar year. Between the intervals of 1998-1999(4,395,004 people to 5,567,277 1.1 million increase), and 2002-2003(8,016,280 to 9,910,204 1.9 million exponential high before ending up more steady). Diversifying outside of Asia flow to this country.
Pretty sure that we will see a decline this year as China uses Chinese tourists as a punishment towards the new administration. The number didn't drop in 2016 because there still were a lot of tour groups before Tsai inaugarated in May. But it's not a big deal as it's never a good idea to rely on tourism, besides the only profiters are the monopolies run by some corrupt Chinese organisations.

Btw 98 means 2009, not 1998; 102 means 2013, not 2002. It's a different calendar.

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Woah, even more from Hong Kong’s 7 million than USA’s 300 million people. Controversial Freedoms, and separate status away from China. Liberal policies, even when there is history there. Is tourism to East Asia(Including Taiwan) more popular from North Americans or Mainland Europe tourists right now? Bizarre if Hong Kong, Macau foreigners are more open to other regions of Taiwan compared to the Japanese.
America is far away from Japan, that's the only reason.

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Old 02-24-2017, 02:39 AM
 
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As said before, Taiwan does not have strong people movement relations with Europe, West Asia, South Asia, Australia and New Zealand, there are few direct flights and foreign airlines to Taiwan from those regions compared with Tokyo, Osaka, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. Most Westerners do know much about Taiwan, lowering their incentives to visit.


Many Japanese can no longer afford to travel overseas as before, including a short trip to nearby Taiwan. Japan's economy and value of the Japnaese yen are the main reasons. On the other hand, increasing number of South Koreans are travelling overseas than before due to the rise of South Korea.


Hong Kong and Macau people have the most similar cultures with Taiwan, Mandarin is taught and commonly heard in Hong Kong and Macau. There are Taiwanese acting in Hong Kong and Mainland Chinese movies. There are many HK and Macau people studying in Taiwan. Taiwanese culture is big in Hong Kong and Macau, and bigger than in Mainland China, Japan and South Korea. USA, Japan and South Korea are culturally and geographically more distanced from Taiwan.


Hong Kong , Macau and Taiwan are also the largest sources of visitors to Mainland China.


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For each of these findings, where are these tourists coming from is always main question. Other areas of mainland Asia, or from mainland Europe. Pinpointing down the origins with all of those nations is a key background demographics verification.

What is going on with Japan’s variation swing between 2008-2009, 2010-2011? Was there an economic recession or other motives to discourage foreign visitors?


Woah, even more from Hong Kong’s 7 million than USA’s 300 million people. Is tourism to East Asia(Including Taiwan) more popular from North Americans or Mainland Europe tourists right now? Bizarre if Hong Kong, Macau foreigners are more open to other regions of Taiwan compared to the Japanese.
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Old 03-04-2017, 12:09 AM
 
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2008-2009 is the financial crisis and 2010-2011 is the earthquake and tsunami.


Pretty sure that we will see a decline this year as China uses Chinese tourists as a punishment towards the new administration. The number didn't drop in 2016 because there still were a lot of tour groups before Tsai inaugarated in May. But it's not a big deal as it's never a good idea to rely on tourism, besides the only profiters are the monopolies run by some corrupt Chinese organisations.

Btw 98 means 2009, not 1998; 102 means 2013, not 2002. It's a different calendar.


America is far away from Japan, that's the only reason.
Have to read on what occurs with the 2008-2009 Financial Crisis. Is the entire main event only circulating around mainland Asia especially? Economics is always very high variable and not too secure. Yet not to avoid, and always an inevitable. Recently, I met a mainland Taiwanese citizen having a staunchly Pro-Mainland China mindset. Even refusing the name of the former to the alternative of the latter. Not even minding a union back to the original. I wrote a ten page essay on why Taiwan is having a separation to Independence way back in Community College.

West Coast of North America is having even more isolation than Australia. At least Southeast Asia of Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, even Thailand is not too far out from over there, including Fiji, New Zealand, and French New Caledonia. Incredible only a few hours away. Japan is more than 10 hours away for the other original starting point, and quite a marvelous arduous journey.

Final analysis result: Taiwan 2015: 10,690,279 annual foreign tourists entering (10.6-10.7 Million)

Japan: 2014: 13,413,000 people (13.4 million)

South Korea: Same exact year record identical to Japan: 14,202,000(14.2 million)
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:06 AM
 
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West Coast of North America is having even more isolation than Australia. At least Southeast Asia of Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, even Thailand is not too far out from over there, including Fiji, New Zealand, and French New Caledonia. Incredible only a few hours away. Japan is more than 10 hours away for the other original starting point, and quite a marvelous arduous journey.
The flight from San Francisco to Tokyo is only 40 minutes longer than the flight from Sydney to Tokyo.


from Sydney to:

Delhi, India (13 hours)
Kathmandu, Nepal (12 hours, 5 minutes)
Thiumphu, Bhutan (11 hours, 40 minutes)
Dhaka, Bangladesh (11 hours, 15 minutes)
Beijing, China (11 hours)
Colombo, Sri Lanka (10 hours, 50 minutes)
Naypyidaw, Burma (10 hours, 25 minutes)
Seoul, Korea (10 hours, 20 minutes)
Tokyo, Japan (9 hours, 40 minutes)
Vientiane, Laos (9 hours, 30 minutes)
Bangkok, Thailand (9 hours, 20 minutes)
Hong Kong (9 hours, 10 minutes)
Taipei, Taiwan (9 hours)
Phnom Penh, Cambodia (8 hours, 45 minutes)
Saigon, Vietnam (8 hours, 30 minutes)
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (8 hours, 10 minutes)
Singapore (7 hours, 50 minutes)
Manila, Philippines (7 hours, 45 minutes)
Jakarta, Indonesia (6 hours, 50 minutes)
Suva, Fiji (4 hours)

even the capitals of New Zealand and New Caledonia are well over 2 and half hours away from Sydney.
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