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Old 03-19-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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Dark shadows of Chinese Exclusion Act in Trump

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The Chinese Exclusion Act has a dubious distinction: it was the first federal law in the United States to prevent members of a specific ethnic group from entering the country. The law banned the immigration of Chinese laborers and prevented Chinese from becoming naturalized citizens. The law came into being in 1882 and was repealed in 1943, a time when China was an ally in World War II.
Although the law was repealed in 1943, the quotas were still incredibly small. It wasn't until immigration was totally overhauled in 1965 that a reasonable number of Chinese were permitted to immigrate

The article is thoughtful and well researched.

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The Chinese Exclusion Act was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1889 and it did so on the grounds of national security. They didn’t use those words but they did talk about Chinese immigrants in particular about being “agents” of a foreign country and describing them as being the “advance guard” of an army.
While 50 years later most Americans would consider the Chinese Exclusion Act to be blatant racism unbecoming of our modern nation, in reality it was never legally challenged or proven unlawful. It was simply replaced.

The lack of any real precedent means that the courts are on shaky ground in ruling on the current travel ban.
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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People never treat other "races" fairly. It's just human nature.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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People never treat other "races" fairly. It's just human nature.
So is lying and cheating. But that is why we have laws. But the laws must be "fair".

The issue seems to be that immigration is not considered an inalienable right under our law. So it can be extended to only some people.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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Dark shadows of Chinese Exclusion Act in Trump



Although the law was repealed in 1943, the quotas were still incredibly small. It wasn't until immigration was totally overhauled in 1965 that a reasonable number of Chinese were permitted to immigrate

The article is thoughtful and well researched.



While 50 years later most Americans would consider the Chinese Exclusion Act to be blatant racism unbecoming of our modern nation, in reality it was never legally challenged or proven unlawful. It was simply replaced.

The lack of any real precedent means that the courts are on shaky ground in ruling on the current travel ban.
And Trump's travel ban does NOT mention race or religion at all.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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OP, you do realize that the travel ban doesn't ban Muslims; only people from 4 specific countries? Do you know how many Muslim countries there are out there? Not to mention--Muslims living in non-Muslim countries?

I'm not seeing the parallel that you're trying to draw.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:54 AM
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OP, you do realize that the travel ban doesn't ban Muslims; only people from 4 specific countries? Do you know how many Muslim countries there are out there? Not to mention--Muslims living in non-Muslim countries?

I'm not seeing the parallel that you're trying to draw.


So now it's been whittled down to a Muslim ban lite.


One doesn't have to be a semanticist to know what Trump has been after. Giuliani "spilled the beans" for all to hear.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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Dark shadows of Chinese Exclusion Act in Trump



Although the law was repealed in 1943, the quotas were still incredibly small. It wasn't until immigration was totally overhauled in 1965 that a reasonable number of Chinese were permitted to immigrate

The article is thoughtful and well researched.



While 50 years later most Americans would consider the Chinese Exclusion Act to be blatant racism unbecoming of our modern nation, in reality it was never legally challenged or proven unlawful. It was simply replaced.

The lack of any real precedent means that the courts are on shaky ground in ruling on the current travel ban.
WOW, from all the discussions about the Nanking Massacre, you would think Americans were really concerned about Chinese lives in the 1930s. And yes, I am being incredibly sarcastic since I was always aware that the US didn't lift the immigration restriction until later nor were non white lives ever really valued.
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:05 AM
 
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And Trump's travel ban does NOT mention race or religion at all.
The judges quoted campaign promises, not the travel ban. The writer's of the executive order are not going to be so stupid as to mention race or religion.
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