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Old 04-09-2017, 04:10 AM
 
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A 14 year old middle school student was found dead outside his middle school in Luzhou, Sichuan, China. Apparently, witness/es reported that five students were bullying the student and threw him off the fifth floor after beating the student to death.

The dead student reportedly refused to pay the bullies a protection fee of 10,000 RMB. His body was covered in large bruises and his limbs were broken prior to being thrown from the building.

Local police immediately declared that the student committed suicide and hurried to cremate his body, allegedly to hide the fact that he was beaten to death. Three of the bullies are children of local officials, including the son of the school principle, the son of the town's mayor, and the son of the head of the local police.

I know some here will be quick to refute me, but, China can often be a horrible place. It amazes that so many Chinese, in China or ethnic Chinese living abroad, are so patriotic. There is barely any dissent or criticism, especially from ethnic Chinese living outside of China.
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Well it is horrifying news. I heard that the town is under a lockdown, scary ****.

But to be fair, there are dissenters, like these.
http://i.imgur.com/1H0u4Wg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DQkLor8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hk0TXaY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R4pgGzD.jpg
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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A 14 year old middle school student was found dead outside his middle school in Luzhou, Sichuan, China. Apparently, witness/es reported that five students were bullying the student and threw him off the fifth floor after beating the student to death.

The dead student reportedly refused to pay the bullies a protection fee of 10,000 RMB. His body was covered in large bruises and his limbs were broken prior to being thrown from the building.

Local police immediately declared that the student committed suicide and hurried to cremate his body, allegedly to hide the fact that he was beaten to death. Three of the bullies are children of local officials, including the son of the school principle, the son of the town's mayor, and the son of the head of the local police.

I know some here will be quick to refute me, but, China can often be a horrible place. It amazes that so many Chinese, in China or ethnic Chinese living abroad, are so patriotic. There is barely any dissent or criticism, especially from ethnic Chinese living outside of China.
Overseas Chinese ALWAYS complain about China government. If you can read Chinese, just visit any Chinese forum in the US or other western countries. When Chinese people talk about China, usually they do not post on English forums. Is it a surprise to you?

I am from Sichuan myself and many people there told me that the rumor that the student was asked to pay 10,000 RMB is false. Will middle school students ask for 10,000 yuan, which is 1,600 USD? It is a public school in a relatively poor area of China, and the victim is not rich. Use your brain to think.

That being said, the local government did a very poor job to handle the situation. They may have tried to cover up something too. It is very likely that the student did not commit suicide.
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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Overseas Chinese ALWAYS complain about China government.
Well maybe you guys should complain more. You know, harsher, like Taiwanese people do.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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Overseas Chinese ALWAYS complain about China government.
No. They do not ALWAYS complain. They often support and defend.

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If you can read Chinese, just visit any Chinese forum in the US or other western countries. When Chinese people talk about China, usually they do not post on English forums. Is it a surprise to you?
Yes. I can read Chinese.

I know that some Chinese dissent.

I am referring the the billion who do not.
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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From the pictures it looks like there was a pretty big protest. I'm not going to speculate on whether the boy was murdered or not, he could very well have been. But serious situations like this really highlight two of China's big problems. First, police corruption and lack of transparency. Something doesn't seem right about what they are saying and if they were transparent and allowed a third party in to perform an autopsy, that would resolve most people's fear that there is a coverup. The second issue this exposes is how easily and susceptible Chinese (and really anyone) are to spreading rumors and false information. Some of the things being said about what happened don't really make sense and that's why I will hold my opinion, because the facts have been muddied too much.
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:23 PM
 
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No. They do not ALWAYS complain. They often support and defend.



Yes. I can read Chinese.

I know that some Chinese dissent.

I am referring the the billion who do not.
Most Chinese won't protest because all they see are article like this. If it doesn't effect them, people will just go on with their lives like normal. There is a lot of distrust toward the Chinese government by Chinese people, people are just afraid to say anything and most people are content with their lives.

Luzhou middle school student not murdered: police - Global Times
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:56 PM
 
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A 14 year old middle school student was found dead outside his middle school in Luzhou, Sichuan, China. Apparently, witness/es reported that five students were bullying the student and threw him off the fifth floor after beating the student to death.

The dead student reportedly refused to pay the bullies a protection fee of 10,000 RMB. His body was covered in large bruises and his limbs were broken prior to being thrown from the building.

Local police immediately declared that the student committed suicide and hurried to cremate his body, allegedly to hide the fact that he was beaten to death. Three of the bullies are children of local officials, including the son of the school principle, the son of the town's mayor, and the son of the head of the local police.

I know some here will be quick to refute me, but, China can often be a horrible place. It amazes that so many Chinese, in China or ethnic Chinese living abroad, are so patriotic. There is barely any dissent or criticism, especially from ethnic Chinese living outside of China.
Well there are people there that are angry and are trying to do something about it.
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:45 PM
 
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No. They do not ALWAYS complain. They often support and defend.

I know that some Chinese dissent.

I am referring the the billion who do not.
Well what do you expect from a fascist regime?
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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A 14 year old middle school student was found dead outside his middle school in Luzhou, Sichuan, China. Apparently, witness/es reported that five students were bullying the student and threw him off the fifth floor after beating the student to death.

The dead student reportedly refused to pay the bullies a protection fee of 10,000 RMB. His body was covered in large bruises and his limbs were broken prior to being thrown from the building.

Local police immediately declared that the student committed suicide and hurried to cremate his body, allegedly to hide the fact that he was beaten to death. Three of the bullies are children of local officials, including the son of the school principle, the son of the town's mayor, and the son of the head of the local police.

I know some here will be quick to refute me, but, China can often be a horrible place. It amazes that so many Chinese, in China or ethnic Chinese living abroad, are so patriotic. There is barely any dissent or criticism, especially from ethnic Chinese living outside of China.
About dare you criticize the People's Republic of CHina botticelli will find you and put you in a labor camp.
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