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Old 12-04-2018, 12:28 AM
 
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train LRT manila and jakarta usually same uses hyndai made in Korean the difference between the two, usually the Philippines buys cheap trains LRT , while Jakarta buy train LRT more expensive . About manila MRT, I saw American man video using the manila MRT he covered his nose whether because LRT manila is smelled or indeed the passengers were sweating because were crowded in LRT. I think manila has well developed under the leadership duerte but sorry mania is still below jakarta
LRT Jakarta train are indeed different from LRT Manila, although both are made by Hyundai Rotem, South Korea, Jokowi did not care about the cost of the LRT JKT train which was important the comfort and facilities for passengers. under his leadership he focused more on mass transportation. Moreover Jakarta transportation is left behind from neighboring countries

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Old 12-04-2018, 06:15 AM
 
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The only difference I see is that it is brand new and the platform has glass railings which is good. Other than that it's no different than LRT2 in Manila. In fact I like the design of the trains on LRT2 better esp the color combination being the purple line. The Hyundai Rotem you are saying are the trains that are gonna be installed on the upcoming MRT7 or the red line. If MRT7 can replicate what you have there, as your LRT exactly looks like a red line too, then you are simply looking a twin line in Manila. So still you have a lot of catching up to do on your part.

While you are yet establishing your MRT presence there, Manila is already looking into the subway lines, monorail and cable car system.

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Old 12-04-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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Well, the largest part of Jakarta's rail transit system is its commuter rail line which has very good frequencies/headways.

This is a map of it:


This thing had a 2017 daily ridership of 0.95 million and an annual ridership of 315.8 million. It'll be interesting to see what happens as the first LRT and MRT lines in Jakarta open in the coming months and if Jakarta quickly becomes a transit-oriented city. It's good that all these major Southeast Asian cities such as the two in this topic, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh City, and Hanoi are all working on improving rail transit.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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Well, the largest part of Jakarta's rail transit system is its commuter rail line which has very good frequencies/headways.

This is a map of it:


This thing had a 2017 daily ridership of 0.95 million and an annual ridership of 315.8 million. It'll be interesting to see what happens as the first LRT and MRT lines in Jakarta open in the coming months and if Jakarta quickly becomes a transit-oriented city. It's good that all these major Southeast Asian cities such as the two in this topic, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh City, and Hanoi are all working on improving rail transit.
Very much aware of that. But it's a different transportation topic. Mass rapid rail is still diff from ordinary rail transport.

MRT daily ridership in all 3 lines in Manila alone is about 1.2 million. 500k for both MRT3 and LRT1, and 200k for LRT2. That doesn't include yet the ordinary rail line which is quite big too.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:47 PM
 
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The only difference I see is that it is brand new and the platform has glass railings which is good. Other than that it's no different than LRT2 in Manila. In fact I like the design of the trains on LRT2 better esp the color combination being the purple line. The Hyundai Rotem you are saying are the trains that are gonna be installed on the upcoming MRT7 or the red line. If MRT7 can replicate what you have there, as your LRT exactly looks like a red line too, then you are simply looking a twin line in Manila. So still you have a lot of catching up to do on your part.

While you are yet establishing your MRT presence there, Manila is already looking into the subway lines, monorail and cable car system.
the screen door/glass railings Jakarta lrt to installed as to prevent accidents and passengers could regularly take the train. that is why Jokowi was very ambitious for mass transportation because he saw Jakarta transportation still lagging behind Manila/Singapore which had already been built. I see that the Manila LRT2 is still different from LRT Jakarta, I see rather similar to the computer / KRL Jakarta the station design is also different. if you see the design of the MRT Jakarta train is certainly not as good/modern as the Jakarta LRT train, usually Japan trains always have a rather old-fashioned design, but Japan train technology is definitely the best.
can you post Manila subway line station and monorail , because what I know is MRT Flyover Line
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:25 PM
 
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The LRT Jakarta trains look tiny


Compared to LRT 2 in Manila

Thats why LRT 2 is the most comfortable line, because it's the widest train. It rarely gets overcrowded


Your LRT in Jakarta looks like it's the size or Manila's MRT and LRT 1

LRT 1



MRT

These two lines get overcrowded quickly because the trains are so thin.


MRT 7 is the next line to open. It should be done in a year. The trains look bigger, like the LRT 2


The subway hasnt opened yet. They're starting construction this month, and it is scheduled to be finished by 2025.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:07 AM
 
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The LRT Jakarta trains look tiny
maybe this first shipment looks tiny, the next one is sent to a larger one with lots of carriages
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:14 AM
 
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The subway hasnt opened yet. They're starting construction this month, and it is scheduled to be finished by 2025.
oh great subway manila , btw Jakarta doesn't need to build a subway because we have the longest subway MRT and integrated with other transportation modes . Will Manila borrow Japan funds to build subways or funds directly from the government?
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:39 AM
 
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Part of the MRT and LRT in Manila go underground, and a few stations are too. So if that makes it a subway, then Manila has had a subway for almost 20 years.

Loans from Japan are paying for a little under half of it. The rest is funded by the government
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:05 AM
 
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Very much aware of that. But it's a different transportation topic. Mass rapid rail is still diff from ordinary rail transport.

MRT daily ridership in all 3 lines in Manila alone is about 1.2 million. 500k for both MRT3 and LRT1, and 200k for LRT2. That doesn't include yet the ordinary rail line which is quite big too.
Well, ordinary rail transport is sort of a vague term. This is specifically commuter rail, but even then there are some strong differences among commuter rail services. Jakarta's commuter rail service is supposedly quit frequent at nearly rapid transit frequencies.

There are a couple commuter rail lines in Manila as well, but it's less extensive than that of Jakarta's. It'll be interesting when Jakarta opens its LRT and MRT lines in the coming months. I wish Manila and Jakarta had more ambitious plans as Bangkok does, but these are making some progress nonetheless.
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