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Old 01-10-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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Railway system in Indonesia and Philippines





Philippines has total of only 479 kms, only around 80 kms is in service, mainly around Metro Manila.
Indonesia has total of 7,777.40 kms network size, in which 5,564 kms is in sercive. Jakarta's commuter line alone is 418 kms long.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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Railway system in Indonesia and Philippines





Philippines has total of only 479 kms, only around 80 kms is in service, mainly around Metro Manila.
Indonesia has total of 7,777.40 kms network size, in which 5,564 kms is in sercive. Jakarta's commuter line alone is 418 kms long.
Wait India has 121,407 kilometres (75,439 mi) of total track over a 67,368-kilometre (41,861 mi) route. But does that make India richer than Indonesia? Lets just assume that railway system is a great option to travel a especially to avoid traffics. But there are still other transportation option, right? Also it would have been great if those miles and miles of tracks available were like Japan or Shinkansen level instead of a Timbuktu quality.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:32 PM
 
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so you think your PH richer than Indo?
Did I say so? But yeah in many aspects it is richer imo.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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Did I say so? But yeah in many aspects it is richer imo.

There's no "imo", let's talk about facts.


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Wait India has 121,407 kilometres (75,439 mi) of total track over a 67,368-kilometre (41,861 mi) route. But does that make India richer than Indonesia? Lets just assume that railway system is a great option to travel a especially to avoid traffics. But there are still other transportation option, right? Also it would have been great if those miles and miles of tracks available were like Japan or Shinkansen level instead of a Timbuktu quality.

Did he ever say that? Indonesia is richer of course, having better railway system is just one factor. Higher GDP percapita, better overall infrastructures, better safety, lower murder rate, lower poverty, lower inequality, etc etc are other factors



Combined with TransJakarta BRT network of around 230 kms, plus the MRT and LRT project that will be finished this year, I hope Jakarta can ease its traffic.



Sometimes, I feel sad though for Filipinos living outside NCR. The gap between MM, Cebu and other secondary cities is just too huge. Davao, CDO is okayish, not much to say. While in Indonesia, trains, BRTs, elevated roads, as well as nice airports are quite common in our secondary cities outside Jakarta, most of the provincial capitals' airports even provide international flights.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:58 PM
 
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Sometimes, I feel sad though for Filipinos living outside NCR. The gap between MM, Cebu and other secondary cities is just too huge. Davao, CDO is okayish, not much to say. While in Indonesia, trains, BRTs, elevated roads, as well as nice airports are quite common in our secondary cities outside Jakarta, most of the provincial capitals' airports even provide international flights.
From here, Macau/Hong Kong.

There are direct flights from here to Manila, Cebu, Clark, Iloilo, Davao, and Boracay. Those six all have international airports, in other words. I think there might be a few others, as well...but those are just the ones I know of.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:18 PM
 
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any mall like this in Jakarta?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtFiBC5wxMo

like what?


Philippines' typical malls are usually huge and stretch horizontally. And they are too basic for my taste.
Indonesia's malls are smaller, go vertically, more stylish and modern. And Jakarta has lots of them (173 as of 2014), maybe it's 190s now.





But pretty useless to discuss who has better malls? Since, I'm not a crazy mall person myself, it cringes me.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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From here, Macau/Hong Kong.

There are direct flights from here to Manila, Cebu, Clark, Iloilo, Davao, and Boracay. Those six all have international airports, in other words. I think there might be a few others, as well...but those are just the ones I know of.
Nice to know that. AFAIK, there are around 13 international airports in Philippines.
Anyway, NAIA needs be upgraded ASAP. It gives me headache everytime I land there.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:43 AM
 
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There's no "imo", let's talk about facts.

Did he ever say that? Indonesia is richer of course, having better railway system is just one factor. Higher GDP percapita, better overall infrastructures, better safety, lower murder rate, lower poverty, lower inequality, etc etc are other factors

Combined with TransJakarta BRT network of around 230 kms, plus the MRT and LRT project that will be finished this year, I hope Jakarta can ease its traffic.

Sometimes, I feel sad though for Filipinos living outside NCR. The gap between MM, Cebu and other secondary cities is just too huge. Davao, CDO is okayish, not much to say. While in Indonesia, trains, BRTs, elevated roads, as well as nice airports are quite common in our secondary cities outside Jakarta, most of the provincial capitals' airports even provide international flights.
Alright lets do recap again no problem, even though it has already been discussed here many times, be my guest, where do you want to start? HDI? GINI coeffecient? GDP nominal? unemployment rate?

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Old 01-12-2019, 02:54 AM
 
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Alright lets do recap again no problem, even though it has already been discussed here many times, be my guest, where do you want to start? HDI? GINI coeffecient? GDP nominal? unemployment rate?
Both in GDP and GDP percapita, nominal and PPP, Indonesia is richer, Honey.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:10 AM
 
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Alright lets do recap again no problem, even though it has already been discussed here many times, be my guest, where do you want to start? HDI? GINI coeffecient? GDP nominal? unemployment rate?
Which country has larger GDP?
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