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Old 01-28-2019, 01:14 AM
 
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Dukuh Atas Transit Oriented Development

Dukuh Atas will be be developed as integrated area and meeting point among Jakarta public transportation systems such as LRT, MRT, BRT, Commuter line, and Airport Train.



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Old 01-28-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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How is that unfortunate? Boracay was overcrowded with tourists (1 million foreign, and 1 million Filipino tourists) and it's a tiny island- only 10 sq km. So thats why the government shut down the island for 6 months and now has a limit to the number of people allowed on the island. So Boracay will never have the amount of tourists as Bali. And thats a good thing
Which is why that poster was so hot to skip back to the original topic.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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I've seen that New NAIA proposal since years ago, almost at the same time when I first saw proposal of Kertadjati International Airport.

This isn't a proposal. This is what NAIA Terminal 3 looks like. I'm not sure if this is a real pic or just a drawing, but it actually looks like this



The buildings right across from the airport are Newport City and Resort's World.

It's connected to Terminal 3 via a pedestrian bridge. It's an area full of hotels, condos, shopping, dining, a casino. So it's specifically built for people on short-term stays or who travel a lot on business and want to be right there at the airport.

NAIA has actually improved a lot in the past few years. Just look at the before and after pics of Terminal 1. It's brighter, cleaner, and more efficient












Terminal 3 has a similar look, except it's a lot bigger and has more stores and restaurants
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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Hi Manolopo..many say Manila girls (Philippines) are more prettier than Jakarta (Indonesia) girls because Manila girls usually there are some kind of mixedblood with other races yeah that it stereotyped can right and can wrong. if you come to Jakarta I would say Jakarta has exotic and beautiful girls if you go to the market or on the train, some public streets that you usually find are girls with standard appearance for Indonesian like short body , tan skin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puadv_mtxBU


and defferent if you go to malls, restaurants, Nightclub in Jakarta will meet Jakarta girls generally fashionable, fair skin, tall body
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEniQO7Bd2g

Btw what about Manila Girls ??
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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Klo debat tuh yang masuk akal!!!
yaa maaf dgn post sya
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:47 PM
 
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Senayan Area, Jakarta



Jakarta is a late bloomer. It was the hardest hit by Asian crisis in 1997 followed by ethnic riot and People Power in 1998. In early 2000s some terrorists attack shocked the city. Pretty much only in the last decade it could show its full potential. In 2008, it only had 10 buildings taller than 200 meter. A decade later, the number increases more than 3 times to 33 buldings (Wikipedia). And still no sign of slowing down. Currently Jakarta has the most number of 200+m buildings in the region, and maybe 150+m (?)
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:16 PM
 
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Senayan Area, Jakarta Jakarta is a late bloomer. It was the hardest hit by Asian crisis in 1997 followed by ethnic riot and People Power in 1998. In early 2000s some terrorists attack shocked the city. Pretty much only in the last decade it could show its full potential. In 2008, it only had 10 buildings taller than 200 meter. A decade later, the number increases more than 3 times to 33 buldings (Wikipedia). And still no sign of slowing down. Currently Jakarta has the most number of 200+m buildings in the region, and maybe 150+m (?)
Emporis has all this info, and it's easy to find for Jakarta. Just go to this page. This part tells you how many skyscrapers are currently existing. (It defines a skyscraper as a building taller than 100 meters.) The page that shows all the skyscrapers under-construction doesn't work unless you pay. But you can get around that by going to this page. And anything labeled purple on the side is under-construction.

For Metro Manila, it's much more complicated because you have to go to each different page for all of the cities in Metro Manila and count up their skyscrapers. It counts these all as different cities, even though they're all part of the National Capital Region. Just like North Jakarta, Central Jakarta, West Jakarta, etc are all cities in the Special Capital Region. So making an apples to apples comparison is difficult, but I added up the numbers...


Metro Manila has 233 currently-existing skyscrapers, while Jakarta has 165. Manila has 79 skyscrapers currently under-construction, while Jakarta has 21 skyscrapers under-construction.

If you want to go by buildings taller than 200m, Jakarta has 39. I'm not sure why this page is showing feet, but 200 m = 656 feet. So that's 39 currently-existing buildings in Jakarta that are 200m+
https://www.emporis.com/city/100259/...tus/existing/2

And 10 buildings under-construction that are taller than 200m
https://www.emporis.com/city/100259/...tus/existing/2

Metro Manila has 28 buildings taller than 200m, and 15 buildings under-construction that are 200m+. You have to go on the pages for Makati, Manadulyong, Manila, Pasig, Quezon City, San Juan, and Taguig and add up all the numbers. These are all the cities with 200m+ skyscrapers.

Makati alone has 15 200m+ skyscrapers with another 7 200m+ skyscrapers under-construction. So even though it's the older downtown, it's still constructing many skyscrapers. Makati's skyline kills because of how dense it is. In Manila, the skyscrapers are packed in CBDs, in Jakarta, they're strung out along the highways.

Here Makati, taken a few years ago

Credit to maagapet on flickr

credit to jopetsy on flickr

And so just imagine that even more skyscrapers are still being added to that skyline^

Ortigas (which is Mandaluyong+Pasig) has 9 200m+ skyscrapers, with another 5 under-construction

Credit to Mjdiamzon

BGC (which is Taguig) has shorter skyscapers. It only has 2 200m+ and 2 more under-construction. But it has a great skyline

Credit to Paterson Galupe on flickr

So that shows that a taller skyline doesnt necessarily mean better. It more depends on how densely-packed the buildings are.

So just to recap: Manila has more skyscrapers overall and more under-construction. Jakarta has more skyscrapers taller than 200m, but Manila has more 200m+ skyscrapers currently under-construction.

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Old 01-28-2019, 11:53 PM
 
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Emporis has all this info, and it's easy to find for Jakarta. Just go to this page. This part tells you how many skyscrapers are currently existing. (It defines a skyscraper as a building taller than 100 meters.) The page that shows all the skyscrapers under-construction doesn't work unless you pay. But you can get around that by going to this page. And anything labeled purple on the side is under-construction.

For Metro Manila, it's much more complicated because you have to go to each different page for all of the cities in Metro Manila and count up their skyscrapers. It counts these all as different cities, even though they're all part of the National Capital Region. Just like North Jakarta, Central Jakarta, West Jakarta, etc are all cities in the Special Capital Region. So making an apples to apples comparison is difficult, but I added up the numbers...


Metro Manila has 233 currently-existing skyscrapers, while Jakarta has 165. Manila has 79 skyscrapers currently under-construction, while Jakarta has 21 skyscrapers under-construction.

If you want to go by buildings taller than 200m, Jakarta has 39. I'm not sure why this page is showing feet, but 200 m = 656 feet. So that's 39 currently-existing buildings in Jakarta that are 200m+
https://www.emporis.com/city/100259/...tus/existing/2

And 10 buildings under-construction that are taller than 200m
https://www.emporis.com/city/100259/...tus/existing/2

Metro Manila has 28 buildings taller than 200m, and 15 buildings under-construction that are 200m+. You have to go on the pages for Makati, Manadulyong, Manila, Pasig, Quezon City, San Juan, and Taguig and add up all the numbers. These are all the cities with 200m+ skyscrapers.

Makati alone has 15 200m+ skyscrapers with another 7 200m+ skyscrapers under-construction. So even though it's the older downtown, it's still constructing many skyscrapers. Makati's skyline kills because of how dense it is. In Manila, the skyscrapers are packed in CBDs, in Jakarta, they're strung out along the highways.

Here Makati, taken a few years ago

Credit to maagapet on flickr

credit to jopetsy on flickr

And so just imagine that even more skyscrapers are still being added to that skyline^

Ortigas (which is Mandaluyong+Pasig) has 9 200m+ skyscrapers, with another 5 under-construction

Credit to Mjdiamzon

BGC (which is Taguig) has shorter skyscapers. It only has 2 200m+ and 2 more under-construction. But it has a great skyline

Credit to Paterson Galupe on flickr

So that shows that a taller skyline doesnt necessarily mean better. It more depends on how densely-packed the buildings are.

So just to recap: Manila has more skyscrapers overall and more under-construction. Jakarta has more skyscrapers taller than 200m, but Manila has more 200m+ skyscrapers currently under-construction.
Nope.
Emporis doesn't really mean anything. It's just website where you can put and update projects. The more you active, the more projects will be listed. So the data can be very misleading. Let's talk about the real deal, CTBUH data.

CTBUH data

2014




2015




2016




2017




2018



As you can see, Jakarta is consistently among top 10 cities in the world since 2014 by number of 200+m buildings completed in each year.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:09 AM
 
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So that shows that a taller skyline doesnt necessarily mean better. It more depends on how densely-packed the buildings are.

So just to recap: Manila has more skyscrapers overall and more under-construction. Jakarta has more skyscrapers taller than 200m, but Manila has more 200m+ skyscrapers currently under-construction.
To add, our friend in Skyscrapercity.com has done a great job in manually compiling data of ongoing projects. He might miss some. So the number can be more, but not less.

On going projects in 2019 :
Preperation stage : 35 Towers
Underconstruction : 83 Towers
Topping Off and Finishing stage : 93 Towers


Finished Project in previous years :
2012: 22 Towers
2013: 16 Towers
2014: 38 Towers
2015: 58 Towers
2016: 66 Towers
2017: 50 Towers
2018: 68 Towers

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showt...#post156138554
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:12 AM
 
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And yet you don't see Tokyo or London or Paris on those skyscraper lists. Aim for class, which you don't necessarily get from skyscrapers. Be more Tokyo or London, and less Shenzhen or tacky Dubai.
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