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Old 02-06-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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^ Manila will have a new, long MRT line this year. Two subway projects are beginning construction. Both current LRT lines are getting an extension. The commuter line is getting an extension and new hybrid electric trains, invented and constructed in the Philippines. The next Skyway phase should be completed within a year, but I'm not a big fan of more highways. They dont reduce traffic, they increase the number of people who buy cars.

Makati and BGC aren't the same place. They're two different CBDs. I donít know why people have this idea that Makati and BGC are the only nice parts of Manila. Yes, theyíre the nicest parts, but not the only nice parts.

They're not even comparable to SCBD because the size is way bigger. SCBD is only 45 hectares. Mega Kuningan is another 54 hectares. Rasuna Epicentrum is another 54 hectares, Kuningan Persada is 17 hectares. These would all be considered small/medium CBDs in Manila.

Makati CBD (including all the walkable areas like Salcedo Village, Legazpi Village, Greenbelt, and Ayala Avenue) is 150+ hectares. And if you include all the surrounding wealthy residential areas in Makati, it goes up to 700 hectares. Makati also has poor areas, a redlight district, and a large golf course, but Iím not including those areas in the numbers.

And thereís another separate CBD in Makati which is Rockwell & Century City. Thatís another 19 hectares.

BGC is 200+ hectares. And then thereís another separate part of BGC which is McKinley Hill/McKinley West, thatís another 80 hectares.

Ortigas has traditionally been the second major CBD- itís 100 hectares and continually expanding. And like Makati, itís surrounded by a lot of wealthy residential areas. It goes up to 600+ hectares when you include those neighborhoods.

Eastwood City is 17 hectares. Newport City is 25 hectares

Bay City is 500+ hectares of completely newly developed land. A lot of stuff is already built, but thereís still a lot more to come. This will be the next major CBD

Alabang is 240 hectares and if you include the wealthy residential areas around it, it comes out to almost 1,000 hectares.

Other CBDs include Cubao, Downtown Manila, and Binondo (Chinatown) but I wouldnít consider these areas as nice areas.

There are more CBDs currently being built like Arca South, Circuit Makati, Vertis North, Greenfield District, etc etc. There are tons coming up all over the place.

Outside of the CBDs, itís not all poverty. The largest city in Metro Manila is Quezon City and itís mostly just suburban residential areas. Same with Marikina, Las Pinas, and Muntinlupa. They're all mostly clean, middle-class areas.

If you look at this map of Metro Manila, the slums are mostly found in the red and blue area

These are the oldest, poorest parts of the city.
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:43 PM
 
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Jakarta ... people will see the whole of Jakarta not only see one area such as the SCBD or Kuningan area or in Manila say like the BCG or Makati area. Jakarta is very wide area there is East Jakarta, North Jakarta, South Jakarta, West and Central Jakarta, all of which have a very impressive area.
Manila just starting to build while Jakarta it has been built and will be enjoyed
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:13 AM
 
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Sorry to burst the bubble with Jakarta being already "built" while Manila still building up, if I have one thing to say, it's "delusional"!
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:20 AM
 
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Kinda have that Miami vibe when looking from the bay aerial vintage point... Miami in steroids!

















^^ it's going to be bigger than Makati or BGC

BGC

https://imgur.com/a/iNZns

Makati

https://imgur.com/a/iNZns









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Old 02-08-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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Jakarta ... people will see the whole of Jakarta not only see one area such as the SCBD or Kuningan area or in Manila say like the BCG or Makati area. Jakarta is very wide area there is East Jakarta, North Jakarta, South Jakarta, West and Central Jakarta, all of which have a very impressive area.
Manila just starting to build while Jakarta it has been built and will be enjoyed
I just explained how SCBD and Kuningan arent even comparable to BGC or Makati because those are small areas and are like little islands compared to our main CBDs. Also, there are nice areas all over Metro Manila, not just BGC and Makati.

A lot of people live and work in the Ortigas/Eastwood/Greenhills CBD and dont even go to BGC or Makati on a regular basis. Same with Alabang. Itís a CBD thats very far from Makati or BGC but offers the same quality of life, if not better.

Thereís lots of nice neighborhoods in Quezon City, Marikina, ParaŮaque, Las PiŮas. None of these areas has a major CBD in it and it covers are very large part of Metro Manila.

Many tourists stay in Ermita/Malate (old downtown Manila) and see the old part of the city like Intramuros (Spanish Manila), Binondo (Chinatown), Rizal Park and the many museums around the park. So thats a completely different experience from Makati or BGC.

Other tourists stay in Bay City or Newport City by the airport. That area is mostly devoted to leisure. Lots of huge resorts, casinos and malls. And thereís more and more still being built. Everything is basically built for tourists who are staying in Manila short term. So this is a different experience from someone staying in Malate/Ermita or someone staying in BGC or Makati.

These are all different parts of Manila, in different areas and they all offer different experiences.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Philippines BUILD BUILD BUILD program cost $180B in 5 years (highest in history), I'm not sure how much is for Metro Manila but big bulk of it.

How about Indonesia/Jakarta?
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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Sorry to burst the bubble with Jakarta being already "built" while Manila still building up, if I have one thing to say, it's "delusional"!
oh nahh do you understand what i mean?? it is true Manila first built MRT / LRT than Jakarta even KL but the infrastructure is still lacking, in Jakarta this time MRT / LRT has been built equipped with great infrastructure for users
BTW..BRT JKT is one of the most popular Jakarta transportation Jakarta society in general, besides the price is very cheap usually free from


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUN2H3oDOY

and changes that continue to be made in Jakarta


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwm7SZ6XIhY
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:27 PM
 
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How can that $450 infrastructure spending in ID be realistic when these are the actual figures per year?

2017- US$29.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...dget/item7318?

2018- US$30.23 billion
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...s-in-2018.html

2019- US$28.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...ding/item8945?

Total USD 88.83 billion

You would magically spend $361.17 in 2020 alone just to meet that $450 billion dream?
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Here it is:

Philippines: $180B from 2016 to 2022
Indonesia: $69B from 2015 to 2019

Malaysia: $51.6B
Thailand: $46B
Vietnam: $6.6B
Singapore: no data

https://seasia.co/2017/12/10/we-will...ucture-in-2018
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:37 AM
 
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How can that $450 infrastructure spending in ID be realistic when these are the actual figures per year?

2017- US$29.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...dget/item7318?

2018- US$30.23 billion
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...s-in-2018.html

2019- US$28.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...ding/item8945?

Total USD 88.83 billion

You would magically spend $361.17 in 2020 alone just to meet that $450 billion dream?
That figure came from our state budget only. There were still other sources like from SOE, Private sectors through PPP, etc. Feel free to google it.
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