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Old 02-20-2019, 12:37 AM
 
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Different parts of Manila:

Ortigas CBD

Credit to Justin Uy on Flickr

Makati CBD

Credit to jopetsy on flickr

BGC- specifically Bonifacio High Street, which is the green strip going down the middle

Credit to https://www.videoblocks.com/video/ta...gwqtcej1u2p5a7

Old Downtown Manila

Credit to Yan Baet on flickr

Rizal Park in Old Downtown. This park is surrounded by 3 big museums and an aquarium

Credit to warubikku on DJI

Intramuros- old Spanish Manila, next to Rizal Park.

Credit to Intramuros Administration on Facebook

Binondo (Chinatown)- across from Intramuros

Credit to Project Lupad

Bay City (in the foreground)- the newest big CBD that will mostly be for leisure and entertainment. There's already many hotels, resorts, casinos, condos, amusement parks, and the Mall of Asia. I know Jakarta has a similar area, Ancol

Credit to Smartcitiesdive

There's 3 nice resorts like this, right on Manila Bay


And several huge entertainment complexes like Oakada


Newport City is closeby and has a similar feel to Bay City but it's smaller

So different parts of Manila have different looks, feels, and different experiences.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:07 AM
 
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what? many times only boast walkable story? cbd story? nothing else?

Hahaha pathetic!
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:53 AM
 
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Another next level stage Indonesia local TV award

Net 1

Net 2


This is how classy and next level entertainment in Jakarta / Indonesia,..

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Old 02-20-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Well London and Europe are different because with older cities, the whole city is built to be walkable, not just the CBD. That's why people love European cities.

With Asian and American cities, since they're newer, are not completely walkable all over and have CBDs. Tokyo is an exception because its walkable everywhere. But even there, there are certain CBD areas that are more vibrant, like Shibuya and Shinjuku. You can look at these places and see that they're vibrant because people are walking around everywhere and there's so much on the street level. People dont flock to those areas for nothing.
Actually the majority of Asian cities are very very walkable. It just happens to be that Manila and Jakarta are the exceptions....in a continent that is generally very walkable.

I've been living in Asia for 25 years, and never needed a car, or even thought about buying a car. But if I were to live in Jakarta, I'd probably stronger consider it. I'm pretty sure I could get by in Manila without a car though.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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Well London and Europe are different because with older cities, the whole city is built to be walkable, not just the CBD. That's why people love European cities.

With Asian and American cities, since they're newer, are not completely walkable all over and have CBDs. Tokyo is an exception because its walkable everywhere. But even there, there are certain CBD areas that are more vibrant, like Shibuya and Shinjuku. You can look at these places and see that they're vibrant because people are walking around everywhere and there's so much on the street level. People dont flock to those areas for nothing.
So you can take your statement back about CBD supposed to be the most vibrant part etc etc. Since it depends on what kind of CBD your city wanna build. CBD full of office towers and company's headquarters. Or CBD full of commercial buildings like stores, malls, and the likes. Or combination of both.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:05 PM
 
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Even cant describe walkable / pedestrian area
Just beside store, office, etc,... Not qualified if beside fence?

Nothing new, another nonsense story.

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Old 02-21-2019, 02:08 AM
 
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So you can take your statement back about CBD supposed to be the most vibrant part etc etc. Since it depends on what kind of CBD your city wanna build. CBD full of office towers and company's headquarters. Or CBD full of commercial buildings like stores, malls, and the likes. Or combination of both.
Yeah I agree. Some of the CBDs in Europe are very dead parts of the city, like in Paris and in Madrid. They're strictly business. But that's because European cities have been walkable for hundreds, maybe thousands of years, so the walkable, vibrant areas arent concentrated in the CBDs. Are you trying to say that Jakarta is built like a European city? Where the vibrant areas are spread throughout? Yeah, I doubt that. Nobody has shown evidence of that.


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Even cant describe walkable / pedestrian area
Just beside store, office, etc,... Not qualified if beside fence?

Nothing new, another nonsense story.

If you want to know about walkability, this describes it well
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/...es-walkability


There's levels to walkability. Having a sidewalk is a start, but that doesnt necessarily make a place walkable. Every suburban neighborhood in the US has sidewalks, but those are some of the least walkable places.

SCBD- if this isnt the most walkable place in Jakarta, please tell me which part is and then post the video.

It is walkable to a degree. It's easy to walk around because there's nice sidewalks. But one of the principles of walkability is that buildings are close to the street and there is easy access to those buildings from the sidewalk. That creates a lot of street-level activity. There's really not much for pedestrians to access while they're walking. Most of the time there's just a wall or bushes on the side. Think of it like a mall. If that was a mall ^ there would be nothing for the mall-goers to do or see while walking around because the businesses are so far from the sidewalk. All the life is literally inside Pacific Place Mall. That's why there's not a lot of people out walking. The green spaces on the side are nice, but they're more like walls than open green spaces.


Most of Manila has similar walkability to that video, which is why Manila isnt walkable as a whole. But if you look at the most walkable areas, you can see a different story.


See how on one side of the sidewalk, there's usually businesses right there on the sidewalk? There's also open spaces for people to sit and hang out on the other side of the sidewalk. On Bonifacio High Street (starting around 3:00 in the video) it's 100% built for people because there arent even any cars. The part in the middle is a green space for people to hang out. Through the whole video, you see people walking around.

Eastwood has a similar set-up to SCBD. There's a mall in the middle and condos and businesses surrounding it, but you can see how there's a lot more on the sidewalk level. There's many outdoor cafes and stores right on the sidewalk. So even though this area is less active than BGC, it's still very walkable
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Even cant describe walkable / pedestrian area
Just beside store, office, etc,... Not qualified if beside fence?

Nothing new, another nonsense story.
They do try to quantify it...walkscore.com, etc.

But, basically, when you are actually walking it, you know it. For example, New York or Europe or Tokyo, you could just walk seemingly forever and never run out of interesting things to walk past.

Put yourself in certain cities, and you feel like you are just trying as hard as possible to get from A to B, as there just isn't anything but parking lots, fences, walking along busy roadways, with little of interest between A and B.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:07 PM
 
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Jakarta has quite nice modes of transportation, such as BRT, KRL which are heavily attracted by the community

KRL ( line Jabotabek )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vWAGthrFqY

BRT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUN2H3oDOY

MRT
new transportation will oper March hopefully it can reduce Jakarta traffic jams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvc8OU0rHcA
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:34 AM
 
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Indonesia submits bid to host 2032 Olympics



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Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, has submitted a bid to host the 2032 Olympics following the success of last year's Asian Games. State news agency Antara reported on Tuesday that Indonesia's ambassador to Switzerland submitted a letter to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) last week from President Joko Widodo.
"The IOC has acknowledged Indonesia's capabilities during the Asian Games and Asian Paragames of 2018," Antara quoted Ambassador Muliaman D Hadad as saying.
"We feel that is a strong foundation."
As the host of the 2018 Asian Games, Indonesia provided a spectacular opening ceremony and exceeded its own expectations winning 30 golds, finishing fourth on the medal table.
However, a report by the Reuters news agency suggested it could face stiff competition from India and a joint bid by North and South Korea.
If Jakarta wins the opportunity to host the summer Olympics, it would become the fourth Asian country to do so, after Japan, China and South Korea.
Jakarta is pretty ambitious. After successfully hosted Asian Games last year, Jakarta bids to host larger event, Olympic Games.
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