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Old 03-31-2018, 06:34 AM
 
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Wait, are you extensively commenting as someone has not been to both?
Pls do some backreading. But anyway, so that it to be easier for you, I live a bare 1.5 hrs away from Manila. Go figure out.
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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Err: "so that it'll be easier" rather

We can probably use this data for now for a better understanding and benchmark of both cities.




Source: https://www.mercer.com/newsroom/2018...ng-survey.html
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Old 03-31-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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Interesting fact is that both are in the list of the worlds largest megapolitan areas. With Jakarta at 2nd and Manila at 4th. So it is normal that both would have pressing issues of their own. They aren't your usual small aesthetic-centered cities. Although they may not be as good as Tokyo for now, they aren't as bad as Delhi either. They are somewhere in the middle hence they're located on developing or as coined newly industrialized countries(NIC).



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Old 03-31-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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With so many travel destinations in Asia I can’t imagine why anyone would want to spend any time in either place. Huge overcrowded sprawling cities wrapped in pollution and some of the hottest most humid climates in the world.

Not to mention the incredible poverty where you’re either rich or in poverty. Have you seen the homeless kids in Manila on the sidewalks sleeping on filthy mattresses and begging for food. Or the province girls prostituting themselves to survive. Manila and Jakarta. Two of the world’s cesspools.
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Old 03-31-2018, 10:01 PM
 
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With so many travel destinations in Asia I can’t imagine why anyone would want to spend any time in either place. Huge overcrowded sprawling cities wrapped in pollution and some of the hottest most humid climates in the world.

Not to mention the incredible poverty where you’re either rich or in poverty. Have you seen the homeless kids in Manila on the sidewalks sleeping on filthy mattresses and begging for food. Or the province girls prostituting themselves to survive. Manila and Jakarta. Two of the world’s cesspools.
The climates are really no different from Singapore and Bangkok, and those are some of the most visited cities in the world. So no use in bringing up climate when it's really other factors that are problems.

Most people in Metro Manila live in neighborhoods like this
https://goo.gl/maps/Bx6bCLXSvdo
https://goo.gl/maps/a93CAZ9wZgD2

They're not the prettiest houses in the world, but they're not cardboard boxes on the street. The vast majority of the population doesnt live like the stereotypical image that people have of Manila.

Also, even in the world's wealthiest cities, you'll see homeless people. If you're in the wealthiest part of Manila, you really won't see any visible signs of poverty
https://goo.gl/maps/8w2qQ8s7Gf42

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Old 04-01-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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With so many travel destinations in Asia I can’t imagine why anyone would want to spend any time in either place. Huge overcrowded sprawling cities wrapped in pollution and some of the hottest most humid climates in the world.

Not to mention the incredible poverty where you’re either rich or in poverty. Have you seen the homeless kids in Manila on the sidewalks sleeping on filthy mattresses and begging for food. Or the province girls prostituting themselves to survive. Manila and Jakarta. Two of the world’s cesspools.
I hope you are not just random guy who has not been to both places or have been to them but only got on the poorer parts just because you can't afford the wealthier parts. I agree there are certain issues that both metro areas faces and I understand you are entitled to your own opinion but to exaggerate them and call them cesspools are probably a product of your imagination. I can tell you so many cities in the world worse than them either in living condition and weather.

Getting the picture and feel alone of how metropolitan areas in the world that are in developing countries is enough reason to visit both cities. But then again it all boils down to personal preference. Don't generalize people to assume and ask "I can’t imagine why anyone would want to spend any time in either place." just because you did not like it.

I reckon both cities can showcase history, culture and modernity that you wont find anywhere else in the world. This is 2nd reason enough to visit both. There are still other factors and reasons that you can find worth visiting both besides the negative ones as long as you are just open and accepting which is the essence of travelling. You might just as well keep yourself at home if this is your mindset as a traveler because you wont be happy after all.

I can provide so many more information on the best places to travel particularly Metro Manila, but I realized, I don't give out our "precious pearls to swines". So have a great day!
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Old 04-03-2018, 02:00 AM
 
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Try watching YouTube more often.
I watch already and the data from 2017/2018 slum in Manila more visible and more worst than Jakarta!!

Jakarta slum https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...IIBQ%253D%253D
Manila slumhttps://www.youtube.com/results?sp=E...ry=manila+slum
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Old 04-03-2018, 02:21 AM
 
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Err: "so that it'll be easier" rather

We can probably use this data for now for a better understanding and benchmark of both cities.




Source: https://www.mercer.com/newsroom/2018...ng-survey.html
err,.. how about this


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Old 04-03-2018, 05:17 AM
 
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^^Numbeo for me isn't that reliable. Imagine several Indian and other cities outdoing even Jakarta.

Singapore at 92 wtf? And the next SEA city is Davao in the Phils even edging out KL (well Davao is a great city to live though)

Figure out for yourself.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:24 AM
 
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I watch already and the data from 2017/2018 slum in Manila more visible and more worst than Jakarta!!

Jakarta slum https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...IIBQ%253D%253D
Manila slumhttps://www.youtube.com/results?sp=E...ry=manila+slum
Imagine you have the dirtiest river in the world? And a sinking city due garbage? Thanks for providing the links. Indeed Manila is worse haha.

However sitting aside that, it really is disheartening tbh.
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