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Old 04-01-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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^ That video from PNR is old. PNR is now rolling out hybrid electric trains made in the Philippines. They're faster and more energy-efficient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwwWXy0wNPc
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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I quite enjoyed the Manila MRT tour on the video more than Jakartas despite being newer and nicer looking. I actually personally like riding on elevated tracks because of the city view than on a subway or underground which look soul-less imo. Looks like a clash between a new kid in town trying to impress and an oldie with the experience and just doing its job like a normal days work. Also, 2nd video is too short to enjoy. I reckon Jakarta MRT is still a work in progress, while Manilas MRT needs more makeover which is also in progress now.
nah ,our society is generally very enthusiastic about talking about transportation especially trains, this is like a very big magnet I think not only Indonesia but all Asian countries .
We admit that Manila MRT is far first built from Jakarta. the plan for the Jakarta MRT builder had been announced 40 years ago, but it was implemented after Jokowi became president and was built in 2013 & 2019 finish , even though there were some risks starting from land acquisition and etc. and many pedestrian in area the MRT station .


MRT Setiabudi Astra Station

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-8BuOeNUA0

Oke Btw..These are some Subway MRT Jakarta " Setiabudi Astra Station " yeah i like this station looks nicer and clean besides benhil, bundaran HI , senayan, setia budi,dukuh atas station etc every MRT station in Jakarta has its own characteristics such as bundaran Hi has an international concept, benhil the concept of nature, senayan the concept of sports etc.
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:57 AM
 
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^ That video from PNR is old. PNR is now rolling out hybrid electric trains made in the Philippines. They're faster and more energy-efficient
That new PNR train is powered by either diesel or battery inside the train, the track itself is not electrified.
That's different from Jakarta commuter line which is powered through overhead lines, just like your current MRT / LRT. So, sorry to say, though PNR introduces new train, the system still utilizes the same old technology.

MRT Jakarta is also powered through overhead lines.
LRT Jakarta is powered through 3rd rail. Just as efficient, but better aesthetically since you won't see cables hanging all over the place.

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Old 04-02-2019, 01:19 AM
 
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hope Jakarta MRT passengers will never be quiet🤞

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUz6w8RlRY8
Ohh My God hehehe , I saw that little kids standing without safety in Mrt train (this only in Jakarta ) made my memories yesterday when I got on the MRT from Blok M to Senayan some little kids stood between the crowd people in train they looked very happy, I just saw this on the MRT JKT even though transportation others are usually given priority seats or their parents' laps, this is because the MRT train runs at high speed we never feel a rocking or impact, even though stand we feels comfortable, except when entering the Benhil tunnel there is a slight vibration because it might be the depth of the ground
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Old 04-02-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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Built without any significant improvement along the way to it is now. I'm not talking about the train only, but also the whole infrastructure, tracks, stations, etc.

Jakarta commuter line


Manila MRT


PNR


Your PNR is not even electrified. CMIIW ...
Trains PNR currently ordering is what Solo, a secondary city in Central Java Province, uses for quite sometime now for its Solo Express.

Solo Express
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I don't buy the excuse. Spore's MRT is more than a decade older, yet the condition is much better and more modern. Jakarta's BRT is also 15 years old already, but no way it looks outdated. Even Jakarta's 90 years old Commuter line is in better condition than Manila's MRT.

What both Spore and Indonesia do but Philippines doesn't is developing and updating our infrastructures to adapt with current technology. We don't just build and leave them to rot. Just like this Bundaran HI BRT Stop, it is now being developed to be an integrated station with underground MRT station below.


So how is it exactly in better condition in totality than these? Straightforward answer please.

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Old 04-03-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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Ok, so that means Jakarta has a subway and Manila has a subway. Solved that debate
Yea, pretty much. If you told someone in the US that Jakarta and Manila had subway systems, they wouldn't bat at an eye and generally would understand what you mean. If you told someone in the US that they both had MRTs, you'd probably have to explain what that means as MRT is not a common term.
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:52 PM
 
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Yea, pretty much. If you told someone in the US that Jakarta and Manila had subway systems, they wouldn't bat at an eye and generally would understand what you mean. If you told someone in the US that they both had MRTs, you'd probably have to explain what that means as MRT is not a common term.
Well, US and Southeast Asia are somehow different. We usually call them here MRT or LRT. Let's try putting Indonesia in North America then. Just kidding.
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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So how is it exactly in better condition in totality than these? Straightforward answer please.
Since when is your PNR changed to Korail? And since when is Hangul is your official writing system?

It's obvious it's not your PNR since the track is electrified through overhead catenary/line in which PNR doesn't currently have.

Have you even tried any of those trains in Manila that you can be easily fooled and deceived by this b*llsh*t. Shame on you, dear ....
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:11 PM
 
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Nah. He has a video walking around Intramuros
Manolop,I think in every post you always talk about walkable, you can see it in the heart of Jakarta like Bundaran HI region it was built subway station mrt and the new transjakarta bus many people are willing to walking especially to the office and at night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LapobfC3sio

then design elevated and underground stations mrt Jakarta each MRT station is have a design, theme and interior always different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HXdWtSQ-_A
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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Yea, pretty much. If you told someone in the US that Jakarta and Manila had subway systems, they wouldn't bat at an eye and generally would understand what you mean. If you told someone in the US that they both had MRTs, you'd probably have to explain what that means as MRT is not a common term.
Heavy rapid transit systems in North America and Europe vs Asia are quite different to begin with. One is usually underground (thus you got name "subway","underground", etc) and the other is more often at ground level or elevated.
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