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Old 04-03-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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^^Numbeo for me isn't that reliable. Imagine several Indian and other cities outdoing even Jakarta.

Singapore at 92 wtf? And the next SEA city is Davao in the Phils even edging out KL (well Davao is a great city to live though)

Figure out for yourself.
I think there is the difference between quality of living and quality of life
However sitting aside that

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Imagine you have the dirtiest river in the world? And a sinking city due garbage? Thanks for providing the links. Indeed Manila is worse haha.

However sitting aside that, it really is disheartening tbh.
Citarum river in west java, not in Jakarta
Btw, ..our government already take action


Imagine you have poor people eat rubbish in 2018 in capital city
Any good project there for people eat rubbish?
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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I think there is the difference between quality of living and quality of life
Can you tell me their difference?

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Imagine you have poor people eat rubbish in 2018 in capital city
Any good project there for people eat rubbish?

Oh how about this? This is in the PH or in ID?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zJ...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zJQDmeEAk
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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Can you tell me their difference?
Both terms incorporate a degree of subjectivity. But in general, they relate to slightly distinct concepts:

If you are contented and happy and live free from fear or stress, you may be said to enjoy a high quality of life.

But if you are rich, can afford good health care and education and good food and accommodation (or alternatively if you aren't rich but enjoy all these things because of social redistribution of wealth) then you have a high quality of living.

A person may have a low standard of living (relative poverty compared to the people around them or compared to people geographically removed from them) but a very high quality of life (they may report happiness, fulfilment and satisfaction in life). So the two may go hand-in-hand but needn't.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-diff...uality-of-life

they do criminal if they sell it on public, also consumer dont know if the food from rubbish
thats why they censor their face or caught by police

how about in ph then? is ur police take any action for pagpag food?

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Old 04-03-2018, 09:00 PM
 
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Manila has more extreme poverty, but also more extreme wealth areas. But in general, both cities look the same.
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Old 04-03-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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Both terms incorporate a degree of subjectivity. But in general, they relate to slightly distinct concepts:

If you are contented and happy and live free from fear or stress, you may be said to enjoy a high quality of life.

But if you are rich, can afford good health care and education and good food and accommodation (or alternatively if you aren't rich but enjoy all these things because of social redistribution of wealth) then you have a high quality of living.

A person may have a low standard of living (relative poverty compared to the people around them or compared to people geographically removed from them) but a very high quality of life (they may report happiness, fulfilment and satisfaction in life). So the two may go hand-in-hand but needn't.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-diff...uality-of-life
Point taken but still numbeo is quite inconsistent and unreliable.

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they do criminal if they sell it on public, also consumer dont know if the food from rubbish
thats why they censor their face or caught by police

how about in ph then? is ur police take any action for pagpag food?
Do you mean pagpag is being sold there in Indonesia? In the Phils, they only use it for household consumption to alleviate temporary hunger(which is very minimal to nil already nowadays). Isn't it more evil to sell them? OMG never heard about that in the Phils.
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Old 04-05-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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Do you mean pagpag is being sold there in Indonesia? In the Phils, they only use it for household consumption to alleviate temporary hunger(which is very minimal to nil already nowadays). Isn't it more evil to sell them? OMG never heard about that in the Phils.
U don't understand my reply there?
That investigation is a criminal documentary,
They sell rubbish to make profit, and people who buy it dont know if they buy rubbish.
If someone eat rubbish / for household consumption in my country the government/health minister will involve. This case may be very rare.
If someone sell rubbish and claim that is good food they will arrest under Consumer Protection Law.
This case may also very rare.


Errrr,... DONT SO NAIVE!!
for household consumption? very minimal nowadays? SO pagpag restaurant is not selling to other consumers?
How many youtube video about pagpag in 2017/2018, and u compare with old video investigation in indonesia?
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=E...h_query=pagpag


Its more evil? yes,... But if government not doing anything who is more evil then OMG
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:21 PM
 
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^^ the point is, you have the balls to smack onto our face something that can be smacked into your very face too. How naive of you. Stop being a criticizer when you yourselves are worthy of the same criticism.

Also these problems are present on other countries, they are just more blown out in the Phils due to the press. Our press here are sort of "pabida" and irresponsible. Thats what happens when you put too much freedom for them and them put their cloak under the guise of democracy.

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Old 04-05-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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^^ the point is, you have the balls to smack onto our face something that can be smacked into your very face too. How naive of you. Stop being a criticizer when you yourselves are worthy of the same criticism.

Also these problems are present on other countries, they are just more blown out in the Phils due to the press. Our press here are sort of "pabida" and irresponsible. Thats what happens when you put too much freedom for them and them put their cloak under the guise of democracy.
The point is u drag other city issue to ur capital city
Citarum river in west java
That criminal investigation also in west java

This thread comparing both jakarta + manila right?
Or i need compare issue in spartly island, mindanao, marawi, visayas?

In my country bad news/ bad issue going viral/ blown out rapidly, so the government can fix the problem/ find solution ASAP

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Old 04-06-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Filipinos will prefer Manila
Indonesians will prefer Jakarta

You will never get a consensus on this one

This is an asinine thread
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