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Old 08-01-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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Yes there is a cap. But South Korea has a cap too, even more strict than what China has.

Also the cap has nothing to do with South Korea per se. It is always there.
Not on Chinese media tho.. I just looked it up. Only on the amount of foreign movies played in theaters.

Also looked up soft power and China perform underwhelmingly.

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Old 08-01-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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Not on Chinese media tho.. I just looked it up. Only on the amount of foreign movies played in theaters.

Also looked up soft power and China perform underwhelmingly.

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If you look at western media, China news is 99% negative. How is it possible for China to have soft power that way? The same goes to Russia. They do not have the power to push away western dominance. However, China already built many TV stations in Africa and started to "brainwash" them.

China has a lot of rules outsiders may not see.
For example, now China literally bans using Korean celebrities in any TV shows, due to THAAD, but it is not in the law, and the officials will deny it.
Also, now China bans foreign (including Japanese) cartoons between 5-8pm (time may be inaccurate), so children can only watch domestic cartoons at that time.
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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I mean the whole K-pop thing and their dramas, the whole "Korean wave".

Japan seems good competitor but China having >20 times the population doesn't produce so much popular movies and songs? Yeah...Jackie Chan and some movies with big budget but overall Korea puts them all in its pocket.
If anything I think it has to do with persona. Koreans I find on a whole are a lot less shy/isn't as afraid to show emotions and are in general much better singers/dancers than either Chinese or Japanese.

Added to this, I think they have Hollywood, gloss type material but with some decent storylines makes it Koreacool very attractive in Asia.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:59 PM
 
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Mainland China and Japan have always been less international in cultural exchanges with other countries and regions.
South Koreans are more aggressive in promoting their cultures overseas recently.
In the 1990s, most people in Japan, Mainland China, Taiwan and HK don't care much about South Korea.


Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are world famous and have acted in US movies. They both had experience in western countries when they were young and can speak English.


The Chinese speaking world is a much bigger market than Japanese and Korean, and famous Chinese speaking movie stars and musicians from HK and Taiwan don't earn less than the most famous k pop musicians. They can earn a lot without going to non Chinese speaking countries. Japanese have introvert personality and are not internationally active, their role in wars against other countries also make them difficult in neighboring countries. South Korea is small and they need to actively promote their cultures overseas to make more money.


Also, China is a developing country and many people are more interested in developed countries.
There are also some people interested in a rising China and the rise and the big size of China's population and economy make China different from other developing countries.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:28 AM
 
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Mainland China and Japan have always been less international in cultural exchanges with other countries and regions.
South Koreans are more aggressive in promoting their cultures overseas recently.
In the 1990s, most people in Japan, Mainland China, Taiwan and HK don't care much about South Korea.


Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are world famous and have acted in US movies. They both had experience in western countries when they were young and can speak English.


The Chinese speaking world is a much bigger market than Japanese and Korean, and famous Chinese speaking movie stars and musicians from HK and Taiwan don't earn less than the most famous k pop musicians. They can earn a lot without going to non Chinese speaking countries. Japanese have introvert personality and are not internationally active, their role in wars against other countries also make them difficult in neighboring countries. South Korea is small and they need to actively promote their cultures overseas to make more money.


Also, China is a developing country and many people are more interested in developed countries.
There are also some people interested in a rising China and the rise and the big size of China's population and economy make China different from other developing countries.
The Chinese market like pretty much every sector they are in lacks creativity and just uses $ as a drawcard and is limited by the CCP itself. The HK entertainment industry was once thriving but I think it was a misconception is was ever popular in SE Asia, during the 80s and 90s it attracted mainly appealed to overseas Chinese, whereas Koreans somewhat gained a much pan Asian audience, even some pockets in Western markets.



The Hong Kong entertainment industry these days is a shadow of itself, same with Taiwan. You don't need $ to be good in the entertainment industry, plus I think South Korea has supporting industries that make money off the entertainment industry that is the real winner here (plastic surgery, tourism, cosmetics, clothing). China does not currently have this.

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Old 08-02-2017, 02:08 AM
 
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A movie and music culture can only develop well if the country is open and democratic, and people can say (sing, act, paint...) what they want. You can have the best actors and singers in the world, if they are not free to express what they want to express, there will never a world class movie or music industry.

Korea also has a very positive image in the world. The country has always been friendly, not war-monging, aggressive or rhetorically rude to anywone. People just like Korea ^^
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Old 08-02-2017, 02:56 AM
 
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It was and still is popular in SE Asia mostly Overseas Chinese, not the native SE Asians. Singaporeans and Malaysian Chinese know HK TVB stars very well.


The reason is cultural similarities. Most Overseas Chinese have South Chinese ancestry and some are Cantonese speaking. In Guangdong Chna, many people set up special equipments to pick up tv signals from Hong Kong from the 1980s.


South Korea surpassed Japan only recently in overseas markets. Japanese music and television have long been popular and available in Taiwan and Hong Kong before South Korean. The rose of South Korea's influence was much later than Japan, Taiwan and HK.


Unlike Japan and South Korea, Many overseas Chinese, HK, Macau and Taiwan people still feel Mainland China is boring.


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The Chinese market like pretty much every sector they are in lacks creativity and just uses $ as a drawcard and is limited by the CCP itself. The HK entertainment industry was once thriving but I think it was a misconception is was ever popular in SE Asia, during the 80s and 90s it attracted mainly appealed to overseas Chinese, whereas Koreans somewhat gained a much pan Asian audience, even some pockets in Western markets.



The Hong Kong entertainment industry these days is a shadow of itself, same with Taiwan. You don't need $ to be good in the entertainment industry, plus I think South Korea has supporting industries that make money off the entertainment industry that is the real winner here (plastic surgery, tourism, cosmetics, clothing). China does not currently have this.
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:37 AM
 
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Mainland China and Japan have always been less international in cultural exchanges with other countries and regions.
South Koreans are more aggressive in promoting their cultures overseas recently.
In the 1990s, most people in Japan, Mainland China, Taiwan and HK don't care much about South Korea.


Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are world famous and have acted in US movies. They both had experience in western countries when they were young and can speak English.


The Chinese speaking world is a much bigger market than Japanese and Korean, and famous Chinese speaking movie stars and musicians from HK and Taiwan don't earn less than the most famous k pop musicians. They can earn a lot without going to non Chinese speaking countries. Japanese have introvert personality and are not internationally active, their role in wars against other countries also make them difficult in neighboring countries. South Korea is small and they need to actively promote their cultures overseas to make more money.


Also, China is a developing country and many people are more interested in developed countries.
There are also some people interested in a rising China and the rise and the big size of China's population and economy make China different from other developing countries.
It is actually cheaper to hire Korean celebrities than Chinese ones (on the same level), which a reason why Chinese media and companies like to use them.
Chinese actress Fan Bingbing earned 244 million yuan (36 million USD) in 2016, definitely top 5 among all actresses in the world. However most westerners never heard of Fan Bingbing. That is the asymmetry of information I talked about.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:10 AM
 
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Yes, China has more population than korean but they are not so popular than korean because of korean has so many popular things give them popularity.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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Mainland China and Japan have always been less international in cultural exchanges with other countries and regions.
South Koreans are more aggressive in promoting their cultures overseas recently.
In the 1990s, most people in Japan, Mainland China, Taiwan and HK don't care much about South Korea.


Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are world famous and have acted in US movies. They both had experience in western countries when they were young and can speak English.


The Chinese speaking world is a much bigger market than Japanese and Korean, and famous Chinese speaking movie stars and musicians from HK and Taiwan don't earn less than the most famous k pop musicians. They can earn a lot without going to non Chinese speaking countries. Japanese have introvert personality and are not internationally active, their role in wars against other countries also make them difficult in neighboring countries. South Korea is small and they need to actively promote their cultures overseas to make more money.


Also, China is a developing country and many people are more interested in developed countries.
There are also some people interested in a rising China and the rise and the big size of China's population and economy make China different from other developing countries.
I find that hard to believe. Who are these famous Taiwanese movie stars and musicians that make as much as the biggest Korean musicians?
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