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Old 08-17-2017, 02:22 AM
 
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Made in China but probably more accurately Assembled in China from imported components designers offshore.

Huawei in terms of image/influence are probably where Samsung was in the mid 2000s. Decent quality products, shown they can somewhat match it up to the big boys but probably arent quite there yet as market leaders.

However, you are comparing two relatively different companies, Huawei excels in the hardware for phones, like networking gear, and switches/towers for phone carriers. Samsung doesn't do any of that but are more into whitegoods, cars (tie up with Renault in South Korea). The only market they really compete with Huawei is consumer electronics at the moment.

China though does have a few aces:

Geely: Quickly become a quality and quantity car maker, absorbed some Volvo tech and will continue to do so. Purchased Proton of Malaysia to have a SE Asian presence and also with it Lotus. Interesting to see if they will become the "Toyota" of China?

Midea: Whitegoods maker who purchased Kuka recently, how much it learns about robotics and how it uses Kuka will either make them or break them, would want to be the Geely of whitegoods/electronics/robotics.

Foxconn: Not Chinese but Taiwanese and ethnically Chinese nonetheless. Purchased Sharp of Japan, things of turned around since the takeover BUT this is more through streamlining rather than growth.

Japan's days of consumer electronics and cars king are numbered and I guess they will need to consolidate and move up the chain much like the USA did the in 60s to 80s, what they call "advanced manufacturing". Canon is one of two suppliers of machines that makes OLED panels...Murata in the miniture capacitors is still King of their game. South Korea only really has Hyundai, Samsung, LG as their main players on the global stage but are punching well above their weight as a nation. China is catching up fast, but with the whole more restrictive government - time will tell how much success they can really gain...
Well said. You sound like an insider.

Korean consumers are very patriotic. I don't know if it is still true, but in 1990s I heard almost all cars in Seoul were Korean makes. They just don't buy Japanese or American cars.

Chinese consumers do not have such a strong preference. Some Chinese companies actually tried to use patriotism to boost sales but it was not quite successful, unless government protection was involved.
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Old 08-17-2017, 05:10 AM
 
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This thread looks group of people who buy from aliexpress.com and thus think China is the best country on earth...

Again, the logo of the party that rules China: The Emblem and Flag Design of Communist Party of China (CPC)

"Freedom" in China:

"Censorship in the People's Republic of China (PRC) is implemented or mandated by the PRC's ruling party, the Communist Party of China (CPC). The government censors content for mainly political reasons, but also to maintain its control over the populace. The Chinese government asserts that it has the legal right to control the internet's content within their territory, and their censorship rules do not infringe on the citizen's right to free speech.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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Do you know Huawei? It is the largest telecommunications equipment manufacturer in the world.
The so called Google Nexus 6P and Pixel 7P smart phones are both made by Huawei.

Why Americans never heard of it? Because US government sometimes does not allow it, and Huawei's marketing strategy is to hide their name. The "AT&T fusion phone" and "Google Nexus" are just Huawei.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei
They'll call it Google Nexus because it will sell more than something that is called Huawei Nexus.

No matter how big Huawei is, they're still nothing compared to Google. It's all about what will get more units sold.
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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This thread looks group of people who buy from aliexpress.com and thus think China is the best country on earth...

Again, the logo of the party that rules China: The Emblem and Flag Design of Communist Party of China (CPC)

"Freedom" in China:

"Censorship in the People's Republic of China (PRC) is implemented or mandated by the PRC's ruling party, the Communist Party of China (CPC). The government censors content for mainly political reasons, but also to maintain its control over the populace. The Chinese government asserts that it has the legal right to control the internet's content within their territory, and their censorship rules do not infringe on the citizen's right to free speech.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China
You just need to know "authoritarian" does not equal "Communist".
Censorship etc occurs in many countries. Would you call Iran a Communist country?
Communism requires Communist economy, with public ownership of means of production.
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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The population decline of Japan may hamper their economic growth in the long term, however:

Japan’s Demographic Disaster | The Diplomat

Last edited by Joao; 08-17-2017 at 11:55 AM..
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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This thread looks group of people who buy from aliexpress.com and thus think China is the best country on earth...

Again, the logo of the party that rules China: The Emblem and Flag Design of Communist Party of China (CPC)

"Freedom" in China:

"Censorship in the People's Republic of China (PRC) is implemented or mandated by the PRC's ruling party, the Communist Party of China (CPC). The government censors content for mainly political reasons, but also to maintain its control over the populace. The Chinese government asserts that it has the legal right to control the internet's content within their territory, and their censorship rules do not infringe on the citizen's right to free speech.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China
According to your definition, many African, S American and Middle East countries are communist too.

Honestly, read a bit more before engaging in such conversations. You talk like a 13 year old hothead.
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Old 08-17-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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Honestly, read a bit more before engaging in such conversations. You talk like a 13 year old hothead.
So do you most the time. Maybe you should take you're own advice.

If someone criticizes the chinese commmunist party or red han chinese nationalism, you get so butthurt.
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Old 08-18-2017, 04:11 AM
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.re.../idUSKCN1AX03P

It's a conveyor belt of good news for Japan.
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Old 08-18-2017, 04:44 AM
 
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The population decline of Japan may hamper their economic growth in the long term, however:

Japanís Demographic Disaster | The Diplomat
That's one of my biggest concerns. Eventually, demographics will kick in and there will be a lack of young labour in the country as the population keeps on aging.
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Old 08-19-2017, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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China is nothing like ISIS. China never tries to force its ideology on any other country, unlike ISIS or the US/Europe.

I guess the biased western media succeed in making some brainwashed youth.
And what makes you think US or Europe for that matter is trying to force their ideology on others? Yes, we happen to believe in democracy as the best type of government and feel a capitalistic society is better than other types, but we don't tell others they must believe the same.
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