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Old 08-04-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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These are all very subjective, depending what kind of culture you like.
I remember my first day in Shanghai I got peed on by a little kid in the street. Not saying that couldn’t happen elsewhere, but... little stuff like that does have frequently even in Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen. Every year the cities improve drastically, but some norms are a little hard to view as “civilized.” I think Chinese people realize this too and that’s why we see laws prohibiting things like spitting, begging, urinating in public. It still isn’t uncommon to see those things occur occasionally. Chinese cities are also working on cleaner and drinkable water at the tap, improved sewage systems, etc.

Give them 20 more years and Shanghai will be one of the best quality to live in cities in the world.
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Old 08-04-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Some people would argue that California is the most advanced state in the US. I wouldn't argue with that. However, it's also the only US state in which I've seen a man defecating beside the street at a major intersection. (I.e., perhaps just a meter from the cars passing by.) I also saw an incredible number of homeless encampments (perhaps 100s) on the sidewalks lining a major street heading south from downtown LA.

If I were to try and derive a single lesson from those observations, it would be this: societies must work hard over a long period of time to pull up everyone into a decent standard of public behavior; however, they cannot rest after having achieved that, they must continue working to keep people from going astray.
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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International standard that a developed country should have.
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