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Old 09-17-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Sure looks like genocide to me. The de-facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi may be powerless to do much about it because Myanmar is mostly a military state. That said, I saw an interview with her and in Trumpian style, she claimed there were problems on both sides. Even after being pushed on the subject, she couldn't cast blame on the majority side doing the killing and eviction.

Old scumbag...


Her situation is complex. She does not control the military. She is in the process of trying to increase civilian power but has to play ball and make deals with the generals.

The timing of this crackdown isnt a coincidence. The military is attempting to undermine her and isolate her diplomatically from the international community in order to strengthen their hand against her.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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at least, Buddhism never force others to believe Buddha. and never tell people that if u dt believe me, u will go to the hell
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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The Rohingya need to be protected from genocide and the international community should focus its criticism primarily on Myanmar generals rather than on Aung San Suu Kyi. Focusing criticism on her only helps to undermine her ability to wrest power from the generals, which ultimately only makes the Rohingya more vulnerable in the long term.


The Rohingya for their part are a sad and unfortunate group. There is a reason that no nation would be willing to take them into its own borders. Its because they are not assimilatable or modernizable. They are crippled by their backward culture and stupid religious ideology, which they lack the cultural maturity and leadership to criticize and change. They would likely spell trouble for any nation in which a large portion of them resided.
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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EU should look at Burma.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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People making fun of the religion of Rohingyas should note that there is a small minority of Rohingya Hindus also amongst refugees who have been kicked out in the same manner as other Rohingyas.

Rohingya crisis: Rohingya Hindus too fleeing to Bangladesh
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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Any one knows more about this?? Looks like the Buddhists also arent a religion of peace after all after their ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka and now Myanmar.

Hopefully India steps up and helps those refugees.
I heard about this.
It just goes to show how easily any religion or groups of people following any religion can be swayed to do horrible things.
We all the the potential to do good and very horrible things regardless of what religion we follow or are born in to.
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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There are ethnic and religious factors in the conflict.

The Burmese have a number of ethnic groups that are on the fringes of national life. The central government, and especially the military is concerned that these stay firmly under its control and not drift into secession or rebellion, or just plain beyond the effective control of the central government. The Rohingyas are one of these.

In the case of the Rohingyas, they are Muslim. In the Muslim religion atheists are the lowest rung of the ladder, and Buddhists have been classified as idolaters and atheists by Islam. This has made Buddhists a special target among the major religions in any spread of Muslim believers. And this has been a longstanding Burmese Buddhist concern in regard to the Muslim population in their northwest.

The Rohingyas have in turn resented the Burmese, and most recently some have turned to terrorist tactics in retaliation. And then there is the rise of Sunni Islamic fundamentalism in Mideast with its terrorists around the world, which has so upset the West. It is not any the less fear-inducing to Buddhists, and some in the northwest have thrown aside their religious beliefs and engaged in their own violence against the Muslim Rohingya. Americans are loathe to have large concentrations of Muslims in their country, whereas the Burmese already have a million in their northwest, some established for centuries and others far more recent. Thus, given the upsurge of Muslim fundamentalism it is not difficult to persuade some Burmese that the tip of the dagger has already slipped into their nation and worse is to come.

As to India stepping up to help the Rohingya refugees, I should think one would more logically looked to those hugely wealthy Muslim nations of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States rather than Hindu majority India. Though those nations don't seem to have a great record for doing such.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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EU should look at Burma.
What does that mean? This minority group has been in Myanmar for over a 1000 years. You want the EU to treat certain minorities like Myanmar does? What do you think is going on?
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:16 PM
 
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There are ethnic and religious factors in the conflict.

The Burmese have a number of ethnic groups that are on the fringes of national life. The central government, and especially the military is concerned that these stay firmly under its control and not drift into secession or rebellion, or just plain beyond the effective control of the central government. The Rohingyas are one of these.

In the case of the Rohingyas, they are Muslim. In the Muslim religion atheists are the lowest rung of the ladder, and Buddhists have been classified as idolaters and atheists by Islam. This has made Buddhists a special target among the major religions in any spread of Muslim believers. And this has been a longstanding Burmese Buddhist concern in regard to the Muslim population in their northwest.

The Rohingyas have in turn resented the Burmese, and most recently some have turned to terrorist tactics in retaliation. And then there is the rise of Sunni Islamic fundamentalism in Mideast with its terrorists around the world, which has so upset the West. It is not any the less fear-inducing to Buddhists, and some in the northwest have thrown aside their religious beliefs and engaged in their own violence against the Muslim Rohingya. Americans are loathe to have large concentrations of Muslims in their country, whereas the Burmese already have a million in their northwest, some established for centuries and others far more recent. Thus, given the upsurge of Muslim fundamentalism it is not difficult to persuade some Burmese that the tip of the dagger has already slipped into their nation and worse is to come.

As to India stepping up to help the Rohingya refugees, I should think one would more logically looked to those hugely wealthy Muslim nations of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States rather than Hindu majority India. Though those nations don't seem to have a great record for doing such.
The majority of the refugees go to Bangladesh, India has half the refugees. Saudi Arabia actually has taken about 20K refugees so far.
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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EU should look at Burma.
Don't be ridiculous.
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