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Old 09-15-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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Any one knows more about this?? Looks like the Buddhists also arent a religion of peace after all after their ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka and now Myanmar.

Hopefully India steps up and helps those refugees.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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Sure looks like genocide to me. The de-facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi may be powerless to do much about it because Myanmar is mostly a military state. That said, I saw an interview with her and in Trumpian style, she claimed there were problems on both sides. Even after being pushed on the subject, she couldn't cast blame on the majority side doing the killing and eviction.

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Old 09-15-2017, 07:57 PM
 
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Any one knows more about this?? Looks like the Buddhists also arent a religion of peace after all after their ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka and now Myanmar.

Hopefully India steps up and helps those refugees.
These are ethnic conflicts, not religious wars.
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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These are ethnic conflicts, not religious wars.
But religion nevertheless plays a role, even if the different sides try to deny it, just like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which appears to be territorial on the surface but comes down to who controls the Holy Land.
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:45 PM
 
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But religion nevertheless plays a role, even if the different sides try to deny it, just like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which appears to be territorial on the surface but comes down to who controls the Holy Land.
A role. That role being that ethnicities attaches its identities to things such as religion, among other things. That doesn't mean that those ethnic people have a stronger alliance to their religion than to their ethnicity. They'll put their ethnicity first everytime.

In short, Buddhism doesn't teach genocide.

I think the entire religion thing applies to everywhere. Are Christians all KKK members because some people who believe in Christianity profess it's God Will to separate races? No. Etc., Etc. It's a small subset.

Ethnic conflict is ethnic conflict.

Regarding Israeli-Palestine. Those are ethnicities. There are tons of Arabic-Jews who live everywhere in Israel, i.e. Narazeth is predominately Arabic-Jewish, but it's in the Israel nation-state, not the Palestinian territories. They are Jewish ethnicities who believe in Islam, but aren't killing their Jewish brethren over religion.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:36 PM
 
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A role. That role being that ethnicities attaches its identities to things such as religion, among other things. That doesn't mean that those ethnic people have a stronger alliance to their religion than to their ethnicity. They'll put their ethnicity first everytime.

In short, Buddhism doesn't teach genocide.

I think the entire religion thing applies to everywhere. Are Christians all KKK members because some people who believe in Christianity profess it's God Will to separate races? No. Etc., Etc. It's a small subset.

Ethnic conflict is ethnic conflict.

Regarding Israeli-Palestine. Those are ethnicities. There are tons of Arabic-Jews who live everywhere in Israel, i.e. Narazeth is predominately Arabic-Jewish, but it's in the Israel nation-state, not the Palestinian territories. They are Jewish ethnicities who believe in Islam, but aren't killing their Jewish brethren over religion.
There wouldn't be so many protests across the Muslim world if it was exclusively an ethnic conflict. I'm not saying you're wrong as ethnicity obviously plays a role, but religion goes hand in hand with it. Whenever different groups clash, religion ends up surfacing in some form. Look at the Sunni/Shia divide in the ME, Kashmir, the Balkan war in the 90's where you had a three way conflict between Serbs (orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and Bosniaks ( Muslims) or the clashes between different groups in Africa where once again you get Christians and Muslims on opposing sides.
In the Islamic world, religion is more important than ethnicity, political affiliation or even nationality.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:22 PM
 
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Any one knows more about this?? Looks like the Buddhists also arent a religion of peace after all after their ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka and now Myanmar.

Hopefully India steps up and helps those refugees.
There are 3 things at play here:

1. religion
2. Race
3. history of burma itself

For religion, it is the 989 movement, a burmese nationalist buddhist movement and of course the way of Bedouin.

The rohingya unfortunately worship the way of the foreign dark age bedoiun. They were probably converted during the invasion of Bakhtiyar Khiji in Bengal. He killed a lot Hindus and Buddhists. They is why you see a lot of lasting ideological effects in that part of Asia.

The burmese are also xenophobic much like Botticelli . They have to keep the country together by force since it has many different ethnic and linguistic minorities. The 989 movement is a lot like the white supremacist movement.

Also, asians hate dark skin. Its means you work out in the rice patty and are low class. Since they rohingya are dark, this makes them easy to persecute since they are both dark and worship the ways of the foreign dark age bedoiun. We live in a post-911 world.

There have been reports of the the ISI collaborating with rohingya militants:

Pakistan links to Rohingya militants

If the burmese were real buddhists, they would show the rohingya the compassion of buddha and try to convert them back into the fold from the ways of bedoiun. This persecution could also be a distraction by the army to stay in power.

if they rohingya were more media savy, they should convert back to hinduism, buddhism, sikhism, jainism, zohorastrianism, or godless. Since they have kosher-like habits maybe Judaism. The way of the bedoiun is backwards and has been disasterous for asia. Its also bad PR.

All ideological problems in Asia can be traced back to the battle of Nahavand and the fall of Sassanids. The iranian poet Ferdowsi himself lamented over this catastrophe, and over what he calls the arrival of "the army of darkness".

always remember, all asians hate each other. Just look at Botticelli as an example.

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Old 09-16-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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Any one knows more about this?? Looks like the Buddhists also arent a religion of peace after all after their ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka and now Myanmar.

Hopefully India steps up and helps those refugees.
It is not any new thing. Burma (Myanmar) kicked out lot of Indians in the past especially in 1960s. Those Indians were Marwari, Bengali and Tamil origin. They never got any compensation and all their properties/bank accounts were confiscated. If you ever visit Chennai (Madras), there is a locality Burma Bazaar where Tamils kicked out of Burma were given accomodation as a refugee camp. Population of Indians has come drastically down in Myanmar since 1940s. Rohingya expulsion is just another chapter in their pushing out of different ethnicities.
Another Buddhist nation Bhutan also removed lots of Nepalese origin people. Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country accused of removing Tamils.
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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Nationalism is a terrible disease and ethnic nationalism is even worse. There is never a good result from those movements.
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Old 09-17-2017, 12:47 AM
 
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I think the burmese were always a little crazy and xenophobic. Look at how many wars they had with Thailand.
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