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Old 09-30-2017, 07:55 PM
 
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I read that in some gulf countries it isn't uncommon for a newly built high rise building to collapse of its own accord without any outside conditions to make it collapse which is due to poor building construction. I suppose it was meant cheap materials and fast construction without consideration for quality work. In other words to get a building up as fast as possible with no other end in mind. So I wonder about countries like China and other countries that built and are building so fast
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Old 09-30-2017, 11:04 PM
 
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I read that in some gulf countries it isn't uncommon for a newly built high rise building to collapse of its own accord without any outside conditions to make it collapse which is due to poor building construction. I suppose it was meant cheap materials and fast construction without consideration for quality work. In other words to get a building up as fast as possible with no other end in mind. So I wonder about countries like China and other countries that built and are building so fast
What high rise building has collapsed of it's own accord? There have been many instances where glass shattered without external pressure, but I never heard that of a whole building.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/w...-collapse.html

https://gizmodo.com/5304233/entire-n...r-in-shanghai/

https://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/...larm-in-china/
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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It sounds like China has a problem with quality structure building. But I think it is worse in the gulf countries. For one thing most of the laborers are from India or around that region and they aren't happy workers. A lot of strife with worker bosses.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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The worst quality of construction is in the US. The majority of the housing in US is a piece of junk that cannot withstand a hurricane
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Old 10-06-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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The worst quality of construction is in the US. The majority of the housing in US is a piece of junk that cannot withstand a hurricane
how do you know the worst is in U.S.? You have to be in construction in both places to know that. I never heard of a newly built high rise building collapsing on its own accord for no other reason than poor construction in the USA.
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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how do you know the worst is in U.S.? You have to be in construction in both places to know that. I never heard of a newly built high rise building collapsing on its own accord for no other reason than poor construction in the USA.
a newly built high rise building collapsing on its own does not accurately reflect overall quality of buildings. You should know that.

When I lived in Los Angeles, I could hear people talking on the phone 2 rooms away. Not a sign of great quality. Americans homes are mostly cheaply built. The walls of made of I don't know what... very thin and a kick will make a big hole in it. You don't see such "walls" in China either.

I am not denying that there are many shady buildings in China, but that itself doesn't mean buildings in the US are better.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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The worst quality of construction is in the US. The majority of the housing in US is a piece of junk that cannot withstand a hurricane
True for low rise residential. But high rise are concrete and steel just like everywhere else.

Btw, brick building is not necessarIly better than wood framed.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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I read that in some gulf countries it isn't uncommon for a newly built high rise building to collapse of its own accord without any outside conditions to make it collapse which is due to poor building construction. I suppose it was meant cheap materials and fast construction without consideration for quality work. In other words to get a building up as fast as possible with no other end in mind. So I wonder about countries like China and other countries that built and are building so fast
The construction quality in China is generally abysmal. Just like in the gulf states, buildings in China are collapsing on their own accord. You also have to watch out for the elevators in those buildings, as they have claimed many lives at this point. It's almost a thing in China nowadays, that people are afraid of elevators and escalators.

Here's an example:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7c_1461681979
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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how do you know the worst is in U.S.? You have to be in construction in both places to know that. I never heard of a newly built high rise building collapsing on its own accord for no other reason than poor construction in the USA.
He's actually kind of right. I wouldn't say the US has the worst construction in the world, but they use almost exclusively materials like wood and paper, even when building tall residential towers. It's quite scary, as you can imagine a fire starting on the first floor would quickly spread and burn down the whole building when the whole frame is made out of wood. You wouldn't want to be on the 10th floor when that happens.

Regular villas are wood framed as well even in hurricane zones, hence there is so much destruction every time there is a hurricane or a tornado.

America would do well by looking at how they build in Mexico or Europe. Usually steel or concrete frame. Much sturdier. Protects against things like mold better, and you don't hear your neighbors as much.
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