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Old 10-14-2017, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Macao
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How sustainable is that?

It seems unjust to throw a Muslim woman in prison for example, for going to a hotel with a non-Muslim; but than nothing like that exists at all for the other 40% who aren't Malay and Muslim?

How does a society continue to find those inconsistencies just? And how do moderate or modern Malaysian Muslims accept it?

How long can this last? And as the two continue to separate, where do you think the country can go with that?
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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I remember 15 years ago Malaysia still sounded like a wealth country for the Chinese. Now it feels more and more like backwater. If they need to keep their funny legal system and social customs, great.

A quarter of its population is Chinese, which is why they have 40% non-Muslims.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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The Chinese population has dwindled a bit when it could be thriving, due to systemic oppression.

Yeah, Tiger, it is quite effed up. Simply, it is illegal for an "ethnic" Muslim to not be a religious Muslim.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:56 PM
 
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Singapore I believe has separate justice system for its muslims.

Muslims in the Philippines have Sharia Law also but only for civil cases.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:01 PM
 
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Singapore I believe has separate justice system for its muslims.
Singapore only has a separate justice system for Muslims for marriage related legal issues, there is only one system for all other legal matters.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Macao
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The Chinese population has dwindled a bit when it could be thriving, due to systemic oppression.

Yeah, Tiger, it is quite effed up. Simply, it is illegal for an "ethnic" Muslim to not be a religious Muslim.
Yeah, that's the part that blows my mind. How horrible would that be to be an "ethnic" Muslim in Malaysia, and because of your ethnicity, you lose all kinds of rights.

Chinese population. Yeah, I've heard mixed. I think the long-standing Chinese communities might be trying to get out (to Australia, USA, etc.) But, on the other hand, newly arriving Mainland Chinese are buying up condos left and right throughout Johor Bahru, Penang, KL, etc.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:10 AM
 
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Yeah, that's the part that blows my mind. How horrible would that be to be an "ethnic" Muslim in Malaysia, and because of your ethnicity, you lose all kinds of rights.

Chinese population. Yeah, I've heard mixed. I think the long-standing Chinese communities might be trying to get out (to Australia, USA, etc.) But, on the other hand, newly arriving Mainland Chinese are buying up condos left and right throughout Johor Bahru, Penang, KL, etc.
It's not horrible to be a Muslim in Malaysia. Malaysia has bumiputra laws that favor the Malays and other "indigenous" people over the Chinese and Indian minorities. Bumiputras are favored in a lot of public policies including college admissions, housing, government financial assistance, public corporate ownership, etc.

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Old 10-17-2017, 12:59 AM
 
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The ethnic Malays have far more rights in Malaysia then either of the other two dominant groups (the Chinese and Indian). This applies to public policies as well as government functions, the highest of which can only be held by a Muslim.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:44 AM
 
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The ethnic Malays have far more rights in Malaysia then either of the other two dominant groups (the Chinese and Indian). This applies to public policies as well as government functions, the highest of which can only be held by a Muslim.
because the Chinese voters cared little about politics and didn't even bother to vote, which is why they don't get the political rights they deserve. Times have changed and today I fail to see Malaysia as a better place to live than China.
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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because the Chinese voters cared little about politics and didn't even bother to vote, which is why they don't get the political rights they deserve.
Well, when you are only about 25% of the population, they don't have a voice politically anyways, in a democracy.
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