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Old 11-04-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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I'm Chinese, though I can't speak for other Asian cultures. But at least among the Chinese, it's not as socially unacceptable to express unhappiness, grief, displeasure, etc. compared to American culture. And this American phenomenon of putting up a facade of happiness and "everything's going great with our lives" isn't universal among all Westerners either, at least with my limited experience dealing with Europeans. From my experience, the French and Germans are more similar to us than to Americans when it comes to not having to put up this facade of being happy all the time.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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So true, LetMeIn99. I gave you a positive rep for the honest observation about how us Asians are mistreated here in the US. Yet you see whites being so nice to blacks, even if blacks aren't qualified for particular jobs.
You two are probably the most shallow posters in this thread... In my experience, Mexicans are generally very hard workers. First generation immigrants work 2 or 3 jobs to support their families, buy houses, and put their kids through school, and there are tons of second or third generation Chicanos who are middle class, college educated, and own businesses. Sound familiar?
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:07 AM
 
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Because life in Asia is all about looking good, feeling good, getting good grades, attending a famous university, having a good job, marrying a successful man, getting married and giving birth at the right age, making a lot of money......


The above together with not open minded family and society.


You will find the so called happy countries less goal driven than typical asian societies.


You don't study hard, your parents say you will have a bad future. You resign from a salary job and start your own business, your wife feels insecured and may divorce you. You have weird hairstyles and clothes, you get stopped and questioned by police frequently. You think you look bad, you may think of plastic sugery. You worry you cannot have a girlfriend because you don't make good money.


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It seems to me that Asians are almost always less happy than others.

Japan is a pretty decent country, affluent, safe, clean. Yes they have their fair share of problems, but they are doing pretty good. Japanese seem to be less happy than citizens from other developed countries. Suicide, depression..

Suicide rate in South Korea is actually higher than Japan. The prosperity doesn't help. In the past decades, South Korea advanced from an extremely poor country to a decent developed country, they should have good reasons to feel happy.

Speaking of developing countries, China isn't much worse than Mexico economically. But Mexicans look much happier than Chinese. In California, Chinese immigrants are far less happy than Mexicans, despite higher income.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:17 AM
 
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It depends on which Chinese regions.


Overall Chinese are more eager to show the truth than people like the Japanese.


The Japanese don't dare to express when unhappy with their bosses, parents or teachers. They only express when the people are junior to them, when they are the bosses, parents or teachers. This is a reason they are unhappy. Their opinions are not voiced and heard. They have to agree and do things they don't like. Discussion is not encouraged as in western societies.


Many Asian countries are dictatorship for a long time. Family and Work relations are still also very dictator like nowadays.


For example, few workers in China dare to stike and protest, fearing job loss.
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I'm Chinese, though I can't speak for other Asian cultures. But at least among the Chinese, it's not as socially unacceptable to express unhappiness, grief, displeasure, etc. compared to American culture. And this American phenomenon of putting up a facade of happiness and "everything's going great with our lives" isn't universal among all Westerners either, at least with my limited experience dealing with Europeans. From my experience, the French and Germans are more similar to us than to Americans when it comes to not having to put up this facade of being happy all the time.
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Old 12-14-2017, 02:32 AM
 
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I think in many Asian countries there is more stress in life. Families put a lot of pressure on men to bring financial support or for children to perform well in school and of course there is more competition for jobs that pay much less then what we westerners are used to. But, I don’t think that equals unhappiness. In fact, I’d argue many Asian cultures are very happy cultures. One of the reasons I love living in China is because of the people and their attitude towards life. Asians seem to have more of a self driven purpose in life, more so then westerners and I think that adds a lot to enjoying life. Finding truly cold closed off people in China is quite difficult whereas in the US they are more common.
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Old 12-14-2017, 03:31 AM
 
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Living in Mainalnd China is tough, tougher than Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan etc. The economy overall is not as wealthy and social security is low. Hospital bills can be a big burden, uninsured patients are too many and many poor people cannot afford to be sick. There are many wealthy people and less wealthy people in China. Poor people need to move to cities far away from home provinces looking for better pay jobs, earning just about US$10 a day in the cities or factories, working long hours and living in bad conditions. Many married couples with children live in different places in the same country due to economic situation. The same can be said for Southeast Asians working in other countries. The other Asian places mentioned here are smaller, or just a single city where familes and friends can see each other more frequently seperated by at most 1 to 2 hours travel, with healthcare funded by government or cheap insurance system.


The reason parents pressured children to study hard is clear. In China, if they are college graduated, they may earn more. If not, they remain poor. Most parents did not have the chance to be educated in the past and have high hopes on their children's education. China has been poor for too long and most families want to be richer by education.

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Old 12-14-2017, 04:17 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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You two are probably the most shallow posters in this thread... In my experience, Mexicans are generally very hard workers. First generation immigrants work 2 or 3 jobs to support their families, buy houses, and put their kids through school, and there are tons of second or third generation Chicanos who are middle class, college educated, and own businesses. Sound familiar?
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:37 AM
 
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We must remember there is a lot of bull**** surveys that rank countries as unhappy because they score low on things like "Women in parliament". I don't mind reports like this, but they should use a different name.

Here is one that actually measure happiness. East Asia does worse than the European average, but not by much.
https://ourworldindata.org/happiness...-satisfaction/

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Old 12-14-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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Lots of very shallow stereotypes here and everywhere else. You can't generalize a large country like China, or all the Chinese people in the diaspora. To do so is to do us a disservice.

The ethnic Chinese here in the US, whether born in the US or immigrants, are WAY more cool, polite, expressive, easygoing, and fun than white people. They're the white people who seem cold, unfriendly, crude, rude, dumb, and shallow. Well, they tend to be friendly and warm to whites or blacks, but more rude, cold, and rejecting towards Asians. People are different towards different people. You need to equalize things.
Oh, the irony....
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: From Sunny Honolulu to Rainy Puget Sound Area
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Oh, the irony....
Why the irony? I think what he/she mentioned about whites here in the US at least, mistreating or looking down on Asians is true to the core.

It's politically correct here in the US to mock and taunt Asians. But not the other way around for blacks, muslims or Hispanics. Whites also side with blacks when it comes to conflicts with Asian communities. Take for example the 1992 L.A. riot where Koreans were viewed as "racist" people who didn't like black customers, when the truth was, black customers were stealing items from Korean convenient stores. that's one of the main reasons why Asian store owners follow black customers around the stores. Sick of this politically correct garbage here in America.
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