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Old 11-14-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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Does anyone know why so many Indonesian and Malaysian of Chinese descent are Catholics? It's odd to me because neither the British nor the Dutch are Catholics.
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Old 11-14-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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Those priests have been in Asia for a very long time. In Ming dynasty of China, for example, some famous scholars/priests from Spain and Italy worked in China government. They introduced recent science to China.

The British and Dutch were more interested in occupying land and trading, less interested in "serving God".
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Those priests have been in Asia for a very long time. In Ming dynasty of China, for example, some famous scholars/priests from Spain and Italy worked in China government. They introduced recent science to China.

The British and Dutch were more interested in occupying land and trading, less interested in "serving God".
That doesn't really answer my question. Catholics were there first in Japan and Korea too but most Christians in these countries are Protestant. I don't think the majority of Chinese Christians are Catholic either.
The Brits and the Dutch encouraged Chinese emigration to SEA but somehow these Chinese became Catholic after they got there. I have yet to meet a SEA of Chinese descent who's Protestant.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Are there that many protestants outside of Europe and North America? I think this is not just a SEA Chinese phenomenon but a worldwide phenomenon.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Are there that many protestants outside of Europe and North America? I think this is not just a SEA Chinese phenomenon but a worldwide phenomenon.
There are lots more Protestants than Catholics in South Korea. It is extremely weird that 90%+ of SEA Chinese Christians are Catholics when most of SEA outside of the Philippines were colonized by Protestant nations.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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That doesn't really answer my question. Catholics were there first in Japan and Korea too but most Christians in these countries are Protestant. I don't think the majority of Chinese Christians are Catholic either.
The Brits and the Dutch encouraged Chinese emigration to SEA but somehow these Chinese became Catholic after they got there. I have yet to meet a SEA of Chinese descent who's Protestant.
In big cities of China, most Christians are Protestants, but in rural area Christians are Catholic, at least in old days it was true. Not sure about Japan. Korean has a lot of Catholics too.

I think Protestants were converted later. In SEA, most had already been Catholic before Protestants tried to expand.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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Does anyone know why so many Indonesian and Malaysian of Chinese descent are Catholics? It's odd to me because neither the British nor the Dutch are Catholics.
The Portuguese had an early start in Indonesia before losing out to the Dutch. Likewise, though the Netherlands are majority protestant, there are Catholic areas in the south of the country and the Flemish / Dutch part of Belgium is also largely Catholic. Maybe the Dutch Catholics were able to build on the Portuguese starting effort?

As a side note, the British found some (or many) Protestant missionaries to be too inflammatory for Indian sensibilities. But, the British government also welcomed Christian converts for both social and political reasons.

After a particularly inflammatory tract was distributed by a Protestant group, the British booted several such groups out and then funneled some official support to the more relaxed Catholic and Anglican groups. The Catholics were then able to send more than the Anglicans as they could obtain missionaries from more actively religous Catholic nations. Maybe the same thing happened in Dutch territories?

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Old 11-15-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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The percentage of Catholics among Chinese Indonesians isn't that high. Wikipedia shows about 20% Protestant vs 14% Catholic. I can't find info regarding Malaysian Chinese but think should be close to Singapore (overall population rather than just ethnic Chinese) with 11% Protestant vs 7% Catholic.

You can read why the Kadazans and Duzuns, indigenous groups in Sabah, Malaysia became mostly Catholic. Probably part of the reason why this percentage of Chinese in Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore is Catholic. Ratio of British and Dutch Protestants vs Catholic during colonial times is also probably not very far off from these numbers (around 11 Protestant : 7 Catholic).
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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I don't have a detailed knowledge about this either, but it does seem that various evangelical fundamentalist Christian groups, plus Mormons (I'm not saying they aren't Christian, BTW), have put a lot of effort into converting people in Asia during the 20th century.

As someone living in the US, its interesting how many Korean immigrants here belong to such churches ... much more so than back in Korea, I think.
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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I have yet to meet a Chinese Catholic in China that I’m aware of, outside of having visited the cathedral here in Guangzhou (my parents are catholic, so when my mom visited, we went so she could go to mass).

I’ve met plenty of Chinese Christians who are Protestant or follow one of the homegrown Christian denominations (my mother in law’s family in rural Hunan has some), and many of them will actually go to the Catholic cathedral for services simply because it’s a beautiful building.
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