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Old 11-26-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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I love Korea but I don't like K-pop. Neither do I like those current Pop-Songs of the West.
80s Rock or nothing.
Agreed, the 80ís had a ton of great songs.
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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Who copied them? I listened and heard Ďacidí music a la Hendrix.
Youíll hear it, just try going through a few albums and maybe a couple of concerts.
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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youíll hear it, just try going through a few albums and maybe a couple of concerts.
lol
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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Agreed, the 80’s had a ton of great songs.
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i listen to edm
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I don't listen to Kpop but I think their dance-singer groups are very famous. Basically few other countries produce so many groups nowadays.

In China "sexually charged dancing" is often disallowed, and the companies only dare use teenage girls and boys to perform something nonsexual. These teen groups are very popular in Chinese language communities, such as SNH48, TF Boys.
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I love Korea but I don't like K-pop. Neither do I like those current Pop-Songs of the West.
80s Rock or nothing.

Thank you all for sharing your views.

I didn't think Kpop was popular among this demographic (and that's fine of course), but I get this sense that many people actually have these preconceived notions about Kpop that are quite false, sadly .

Billboard and Forbes and other Hollywood media have written pretty extensively about what makes Kpop work, and here's the summary of what I could find:

1) Talent - simultaneous rapping/singing and SYNCHRONIZED DANCING that is not common in western pop (some Kpop artists also produce everything)
2) Socially conscious lyrics that invite deeper conversations about race, gender and class relations (in the case of BTS
3) BIG BUDGET MUSIC VIDEOS & AMAZING CINEMATOGRAPHY (see video clip "Not today") that experiments with lighting and colors
4)brilliant marketing on twitter
5) Forward fashion that blends the sensibilities of East and West
6) Growing diversity in America and the West that compels MORE ASIAN REPRESENTATION in the media industry.

Also, I'd challenge the notion that all Kpop = pop music involving sexy girls or some fat Asian dude (aka Psy). It is NOT. The most popular group BTS is actually known for HIP-HOP and EDM, and their ability to blend both, and this is showcased in their songs. And there are plenty of Kpop artists that actually do hard-core rock or metal rock, but for some reason many people think kpop = strange bubble-pop music...

Maybe the Psy phenomenon wasn't so good for Asian representation in music after all, haha



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTlv5_Bs8aw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DwzBICPhdM
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Youíll hear it, just try going through a few albums and maybe a couple of concerts.
Which BTS album or era are you specifically referring to?
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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How was Kpop (especially the songs from BTS) able to dominate the US market? Aren't rock music/country and hiphop/rap/R&B much more popular among the US population?
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:24 PM
 
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How was Kpop (especially the songs from BTS) able to dominate the US market? Aren't rock music/country and hiphop/rap/R&B much more popular among the US population?
It's domination from the Kpop/Asian standpoint, sorry I should have clarified and used different phrasing. But for sure it is becoming more and more mainstream in America (among the millennial) alongside the traditionally very popular country, rock, hip hop and other genres. It's a very recent phenomenon too, but major music platforms have quickly been responding to this change by designating its own kpop stations with kpop specific djs such as the billboard, Spotify, iTunes/Apple Music, and etc.
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:27 PM
 
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How was Kpop (especially the songs from BTS) able to dominate the US market? Aren't rock music/country and hiphop/rap/R&B much more popular among the US population?
Have you watched/listened to BTS? It is American music...done better and in Korean...Also, read posts #1, 3 and 14. BTS IS Hip Hop/rap/R&B music with the dances (And clothing) associated with that music and culture.
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:33 PM
 
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Thank you all for sharing your views.

I didn't think Kpop was popular among this demographic (and that's fine of course), but I get this sense that many people actually have these preconceived notions about Kpop that are quite false, sadly .

Billboard and Forbes and other Hollywood media have written pretty extensively about what makes Kpop work, and here's the summary of what I could find:

1) Talent - simultaneous rapping/singing and SYNCHRONIZED DANCING that is not common in western pop (some Kpop artists also produce everything)
2) Socially conscious lyrics that invite deeper conversations about race, gender and class relations (in the case of BTS
3) BIG BUDGET MUSIC VIDEOS & AMAZING CINEMATOGRAPHY (see video clip "Not today") that experiments with lighting and colors
4)brilliant marketing on twitter
5) Forward fashion that blends the sensibilities of East and West
6) Growing diversity in America and the West that compels MORE ASIAN REPRESENTATION in the media industry.

Also, I'd challenge the notion that all Kpop = pop music involving sexy girls or some fat Asian dude (aka Psy). It is NOT. The most popular group BTS is actually known for HIP-HOP and EDM, and their ability to blend both, and this is showcased in their songs. And there are plenty of Kpop artists that actually do hard-core rock or metal rock, but for some reason many people think kpop = strange bubble-pop music...

Maybe the Psy phenomenon wasn't so good for Asian representation in music after all, haha



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTlv5_Bs8aw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DwzBICPhdM

Yes, just as I stated in post #3.

BTW: What ‘demographic’ are you referring to, if I might ask?

*I’m ARMY (but as an individual)
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Old 11-27-2017, 12:44 AM
 
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I wish S. Korea also produces KRock of its own kind(but not KCountry!!) someday. So many of the recent Kpop songs sound so much alike to me.
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