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Old 11-25-2017, 07:18 AM
 
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Jakarta
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I believe Indonesia will stay as secular country and Pancasila is the key.
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Earth
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need to keep garuda on the flag

Majapahit forever!
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:54 PM
 
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Indonesia is one of the most secular countries to accept all the differences, especially religions, such as multi-religious Jakarta will feel this atmosphere and others place in Indonesia

Christmas in Jakarta Church

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKOFo07jXys

Or this one ( Christmas In Jakarta )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNDHy-uKxiw
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Old 02-16-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Indonesia is one of the most secular countries to accept all the differences, especially religions, such as multi-religious Jakarta will feel this atmosphere and others place in Indonesia
Did you know the former mayor of Jakarta was imprisoned for blasphemy? And that he lost the election due to not being Muslim?

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Old 02-16-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Well. What could go wrong here? You have a poor mostly third world country with a history of corruption, exclusion and violence towards non believers. Read what happened to the Indonesian Chinese in the 60's. Welcome to Iraq or Saudi Arabia on the Pacific.
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Old 02-17-2018, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Macao
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It's rather unfortunate as I really like Indonesian culture, the people, and the country. It's a very interesting place.

But, yeah, I see the Islam moving further and further to the right...pulling the entire nation with them, half-willingly and half unwillingly, but to a level not so comfortable for non-Muslims.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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Saudi Arabian Wahhabis have been very keen to infiltrate the society and culture of Indonesia. They recognize the long term ideological threat of the worlds largest Muslim nation remaining moderate and potentially becoming liberal in the future.


Unfortunately, weak Indonesian politicians and backward, impressionable citizens are allowing that nation to go down a path that will cripple it for generations.




The increasing Shariah influence in Indonesia




https://www.wsj.com/articles/indones...ims-1519815905
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Old 03-01-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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Saudi Arabian Wahhabis have been very keen to infiltrate the society and culture of Indonesia. They recognize the long term ideological threat of the worlds largest Muslim nation remaining moderate and potentially becoming liberal in the future.


Unfortunately, weak Indonesian politicians and backward, impressionable citizens are allowing that nation to go down a path that will cripple it for generations.




The increasing Shariah influence in Indonesia




https://www.wsj.com/articles/indones...ims-1519815905
It's a shame that Australia's proximity isn't doing much to help the situation.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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Saudi Arabian Wahhabis have been very keen to infiltrate the society and culture of Indonesia. They recognize the long term ideological threat of the worlds largest Muslim nation remaining moderate and potentially becoming liberal in the future.


Unfortunately, weak Indonesian politicians and backward, impressionable citizens are allowing that nation to go down a path that will cripple it for generations.




The increasing Shariah influence in Indonesia




https://www.wsj.com/articles/indones...ims-1519815905
another reason to bring back paganism and ways of the Majapahit.

The ways of bedoiun need to go back to saudi arabia.
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