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Old 02-12-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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To say India is a democracy is like saying African country of Niger is a democracy; there are other overwhelming factors that matter more. Being democracy for India does not much good.

On high India GDP growth, the main problem is lack of visible progress. Lack of exports and lack industrial sector means domestic figures maybe artificial without international recognition, and inflation in domestic services exaggerates otherwise hard GDP figure. Without infrastructure developments, economy has no chance of growth.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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To say India is a democracy is like saying African country of Niger is a democracy; there are other overwhelming factors that matter more. Being democracy for India does not much good.

On high India GDP growth, the main problem is lack of visible progress. Lack of exports and lack industrial sector means domestic figures maybe artificial without international recognition, and inflation in domestic services exaggerates otherwise hard GDP figure. Without infrastructure developments, economy has no chance of growth.
looking at pakistan and bangladesh, india would be in a worse position if it was not a democracy. It would be worse than the Philippines. Corruption would be even worse.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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what gives, or will this time be the actual time?
The Congress party of the Nehrus kept the castes divided and alive to help their vote bank. Same with religions, playing the Muslims against the Hindus to capture the Muslim vote bank. Instead of having one law apply equally to all.

Corruption is endemic.

People don't care about infrastructure. No concept about sanitation for the vast majority. Every person thinks of what is in it for me rather than what is in it for India.

So you are left with the super wealthy who live in their own cocoon, the middle class who get by and the poor who get left behind.
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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WHEN? After Indians clean up the trash on their Street and build 300,000,000 new toilets.

Indians have been brain washed by the West with idea of "demographic dividends". In fact, there will be next to none. Artificial intelligence and automation are already here. Look at Qing Dao port in China, fully automatic with no crane operator and no driver. Only 9 people in the control room to handle daily operations. India will have near half billion young Indians and what are they going to do?

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Old 02-21-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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Honest question.

They (the experts) have been saying India's free market democracy and huge labor force plus (relative) unity and extreme levels of underdevelopment AND their young educated population are the perfect ingredients for an economic boom same as China.

In the 80s they said it was their moment and then nothing happened, they said it again in the early 2000s and nothing happened, they saying it now but still they have fallen behind Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam, and a host of other Asian economies.

What is wrong, why are they still so poor with broken buildings and infrastructure projects that don't lift up from the ground?

Statistically they are still incredible rural and in many ways behind where they were under the Mughal dynasty.

what gives, or will this time be the actual time?
One thing which is holding India back is its low average IQ:

The Puzzle Of Indian IQ: A Country Of Gypsies And Jews, by Anatoly Karlin - The Unz Review

If India will successfully get rid of its problems with malnutrition and parasitic disease load, then we should expect India's average IQ to significantly increase and thus for its wealth potential to significantly increase as well. After all, the relationship between IQ/human capital and GDP per capita is very close for conventional countries:

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/educatio...r-of-growth-3/
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:13 PM
 
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India is not going to rise in terms of a significant defeat of poverty, and it has nothing to do with the caste system. There are simply too many people in this country of an inadequate educational system. There is nothing for them to do, speaking generally. India would have to significantly reduce its population, effectively reform its educational system to one that is conducive to an advanced industrial economy, and then overcome all of the infrastructure and tropical weather issues that keep people impoverished there.

But there will be segments of people an individuals who do better. Its probably best to think of India in terms of its constituent states rather than as a whole nation when assessing any potential progress.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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India has a lot of potential, but it's bottlenecked by outdated cultural norms that still plagues their society.
The caste system remains a problem despite the fact that it's been outlawed in the country.
Religion and sectarian violence remains in many segments of society.
Then there's the issue with gender as many rural places prefer boys over girls.

If India can solve these cultural boundaries, it may one day match China.
My Indian colleagues (work with many), they still seem like 2 generations behind East Asians in terms of thinking and development. I'm talking culturally here. Arranged marriages is still the norm/common. As you mentioned, caste society is still vibrant - a few I work with are proud that they come from the highest caste system in their society. Then there is the whole notion that X religion can't marry Y religion. Their thinking really reminds me of how my grandparents would have thought in their prime. I think Asians are a lot more Westernised (even China) culturally speaking.
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:02 PM
 
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India's toast. UN economists have predicted an economic growth slowdown, due to a shift in the monsoon pattern that's expected to take place in the next 20 years or so. They've advised India to factor that into their economic and development planning. Good luck, India.
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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Being Gods chosen land, It will continue to be protected , despite getting attacked directly and indirectly for 100's of years. In order to rise, they have to look inward and admit the reality and then start working. Most of them are living in denial and boast about technology, ancient history etc but there has been nothing significant since independence.


Slave mentality and mindset needs to change.Now most of them are planning to beg in Washington DC for "DALCA" and they want preference over DACA and refugee kids.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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Being Gods chosen land, It will continue to be protected , despite getting attacked directly and indirectly for 100's of years. In order to rise, they have to look inward and admit the reality and then start working. Most of them are living in denial and boast about technology, ancient history etc but there has been nothing significant since independence.


Slave mentality and mindset needs to change.Now most of them are planning to beg in Washington DC for "DALCA" and they want preference over DACA and refugee kids.
they did launch that satellite to mars pretty cheaply.
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