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Old 03-15-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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I am pretty sure most East Asians are economically conservative (no high taxes, no good welfare). They despise people on social welfare, especially long term.
Socially it depends. Many are very conservative (against gay marriage etc), but the younger generation is increasingly liberal.

Also they dislike the blacks A LOT.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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East Asia is China, Korea and Japan. South Korea and Japan are both democracies.
The length of democratic practices is a fraction in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan in comparison to the West. Especially Korea and Taiwan, two brutal former dictatorships. There's a reason why all the liberal countries are successful democracies.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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It is a fallacy to try to shoehorn East Asians into a American political spectrum.
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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In Australia the Chinese Australian community are quite conservative. Their vote in the same sex marriage decision was more against it than the general community, apparently quite a few had issues with a previous female Prime Minister who was living with her partner and of course they highly prize academic achievement. That can result in them taking a conservative stance about kid's behaviour and many do not drink alcohol.

Having said that there have been no noticeable issues about their acceptance of the majority vote or majority opinions.
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I am pretty sure most East Asians are economically conservative (no high taxes, no good welfare). They despise people on social welfare, especially long term.
Socially it depends. Many are very conservative (against gay marriage etc), but the younger generation is increasingly liberal.

Also they dislike the blacks A LOT.
^^^ And these are the people pourng into Canada. Lovely.
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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East Asia is indeed generally quite conservative, but it's a vastly different sort of conservatism from what we have in the US.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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^^^ And these are the people pourng into Canada. Lovely.
nice irony in this post. it’s simultaneously expressing and condemning xenophobia. this “study” and botticelli’s generalization aren’t proof of anything. just the typical crap that passes for insights about asians.

how about this? “study proves africans are all liberals. also, blacks dislike asians A LOT.” OMG these are the people immigrating to the US in increasing numbers?
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:21 AM
 
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Political conservatism does not equal religious. That's just something Americans seem to believe because the right panders to the evangelicals.
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Political conservatism does not equal religious. That's just something Americans seem to believe because the right panders to the evangelicals.
But the vast majority of conservatives are religious and conservative political thought does have a basis in Christianity. The social laws of the US are highly based on Christian values and traditions. South Korea is an exception where there are quite a few Christians, but East Asians are typically agnostics or irreligious. East Asians might have a belief in low taxes and limited welfare, but the basis for those beliefs is not rooted in the idea of liberty and a free society. East Asians still view things from a collective standpoint and not from an individualistic standpoint. The foundations to their beliefs are drastically different.

Most East Asians accept things like abortion, economic protectionism, labor rights (especially for women, things like extended time off for pregnant women), government involvement with family affairs isn’t seen with a bad stigma, very high support for public education, public infrastructure and transport, and public health care, banning things like trans fat, Diesel engines, gas engines in cities.

Traditional family values, taxes, and anti lgbt are some of the only similarities I can think of. But, on the other hand, I don’t consider myself conservative and I am pro traditional family values and for moderately low taxes.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:31 PM
 
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The conservative vs liberal division does not fit East Asian society.
This. It makes no sense taking a US political framework and trying to apply it to another country, and especially not across the East/West cultural divide.

My experience is that East Asians can be very "conservative" (by western definitions) within their own families (though it varies from family to family), but generally take more of a live-and-let-live attitude ("liberal" or arguably "libertarian") toward those not within their family. They don't have the tendency to want to impose their morals on strangers the way many "conservatives" in the US do.

Taiwan has voted to legalize same sex marriage, and it's only a matter of time before Japan does, too. (Polls show the majority favor it.) Transgender identity has long been more acceptable in some SE Asian countries than it is in the US. Now would the average family approve of this in their own children? Probably not. But as far as it being illegal for others? They don't really care.

And of course, as in most of the world, the countries that can afford to do so have relatively strong social safety nets in East Asia when compared to the US, including universal healthcare. Americans would call this "liberal," but most of the world just calls it "being decent to each other."
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