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Old 03-20-2018, 03:42 AM
 
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Well, the argument I was making is that Republicans are perceived as racist, anti-immigrant, anti-everything....if Republicans embraced and reached out to non-whites, they'd have a good voting block among Asians, who DO fall more in line with other Republican values overall.

That's not a backpedal. I'm stating the same message, I'm just drawing the line and arrow.
So you're saying that if a political party completely changed much of what it stands for in its platform and campaigns (let's face it, the racism and bigotry aren't just "perception"), it would attract a different group of voters? Doesn't that go without saying?
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I don't know what Asian Americans think. I know both rich and poor people. I know a lot of Chinese and some other Asians in Asia welcoming welfare. As you can guess, they are mostly poorer people. Rich people, asian or not, they don't need welfare therefore they don't care about welfare policies.
So why don't you actually talk to an Asian American and ask us what we think?

Again, the point is that Asian Americans and Asians in Asia are different groups with different outlooks in different contexts, even within these very broad categories. A Laotian or Hmong struggling in the Twin Cities is going to have a very different point of view than a 3rd or 4th generation Japanese American in Hawaii.
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Old 03-20-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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So you're saying that if a political party completely changed much of what it stands for in its platform and campaigns (let's face it, the racism and bigotry aren't just "perception"), it would attract a different group of voters? Doesn't that go without saying?
Kindly point to any plank in the Republican party platform and/or campaign statements by Republican leaders that can be construed as racist against Asians. And no, trade issues with China don't count, unless you can demonstrate that those issues have arisen due to anti-Asian animus.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Kindly point to any plank in the Republican party platform and/or campaign statements by Republican leaders that can be construed as racist against Asians. And no, trade issues with China don't count, unless you can demonstrate that those issues have arisen due to anti-Asian animus.
That's not our problem. That's a problem for the national GOP party to resolve.

If the GOP wants more Asian American votes, they have to figure out why we go for Democrats by a margin of 2-1 in the last 20 or so years and work on it. Remember, more Asian American voters went for Bush I than Clinton back in 1992. So they did have a lot of Asian American voters but have lost their way.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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Kindly point to any plank in the Republican party platform and/or campaign statements by Republican leaders that can be construed as racist against Asians. And no, trade issues with China don't count, unless you can demonstrate that those issues have arisen due to anti-Asian animus.
Being racist against one minority is racism, doesn't matter if its against Asians specifically. I think we're smart enough to realize we are in line and not out of line for being future targets. We stand stronger together as minorities to fight racism and I'm glad our voting pattern shows this.
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Old 03-22-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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work in a company managing sec 8 apartments and people from Asia also avail of this benefit. maybe it is not prevalent as other races but they do.


I submit, they also take advantage of any handout if they have a chance or if they can. its just human nature
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Old 03-22-2018, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Being racist against one minority is racism, doesn't matter if its against Asians specifically. I think we're smart enough to realize we are in line and not out of line for being future targets. We stand stronger together as minorities to fight racism and I'm glad our voting pattern shows this.
I've said this many times - one of the first groups to come out and support Muslim Americans against the stereotyping and hysteria about them right after 9-11 were groups like the JACL, because we've seen how certain communities can be targeted and scapegoated when events happen (e.g. Japanese American internment in WWII).
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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To be fair, the recent AA discrimination against Asians is very new and isn’t widely known. We may see some political reaction by Asians against Democrats, but we won’t really know until the next few election cycles pass.

I will say, at least where I live, I’m fairly involved in the Chinese community and most seem to support Republicans, but the people I know must not be typical, because it sure doesn’t seem to follow voting patterns.
Affirmative action discrimination against Asians isn’t new. It’s been going on for decades. And it’s socially sanctioned by everyone who’s not Asian, including blacks and Hispanics. Nobody cares this is happening. In fact, they applaud it. There’s a quota on Asian applicants - the percent admitted has been relatively static for almost four decades, even though the numbers applying have been increasing. A few schools’ demographics are exceptions to this, such as CalTech, but they happen to be schools who do not practice Affirmative Action.

“Holistic” admissions is a euphemism for capricious and subjective admissions. Kinda scary that the academy has been overtaken by this way of doing things. Any subject outside of the hard sciences is essentially induction into this cultish left wing.

Of Course Harvard Discriminates Against Asians, by John Derbyshire - The Unz Review
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:27 AM
 
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Immigration is valid acceptance to this theory. Why that abundant in Europe, North America, Oceania, yet close to non-existent with this specific lines of reference. Daily lifestyle, they arenít too overly extravagant with their own habits. However, they offer tons of personality that is completely separate from any other ethnic heritage classification labels of people. Correct enough when studying cultural anthropological stories over there, or from travels.
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Old 06-06-2018, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Houston
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An interesting discussion, although from a quick read-through, the discussion topic seems to have wandered back and forth. I agree that applying some simplistic interpretation of Asian societies in terms of the typical US society's view of "liberal vs. conservative" is kinda pointless. I'm an older, highly educated white guy from Houston, Texas who has had hundreds of East Asian friends and colleagues (from school and work) who are also highly educated. I often reflect on the fact that I feel more in common with them than with most white Americans. In large part because of education and common interests. However, I am careful not to assume that group of friends represents all the people from East Asia who didn't come to the US to get graduate degrees and raise families. Despite that ... going out on a limb ... I would say that they are generally conservative, but not in the wacky style that some US conservatives have gravitated toward. I even know some guys from East Asia who are here because they wanted to escape the pressure to marry and have kids (they are gay), but they are also somewhat conservative on economic issues, but not social issues.
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