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Old 06-20-2018, 10:43 PM
 
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Nowadays many Asians feel they are victims of AA (benefiting non-Asian minorities for the most part) and welfare programs. Also, Asians tend to have conservative social values compared liberal whites.
Sure, conservative compared to liberal whites, but nowhere as conservative as conservative Evangelical or Mormon whites.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Sure, conservative compared to liberal whites, but nowhere as conservative as conservative Evangelical or Mormon whites.
There's a considerable number of conservative evangelical Asians in the US and Canada and yes, they are.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:53 AM
 
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There's a considerable number of conservative evangelical Asians in the US and Canada and yes, they are.
Evangelical Asians comprise a smaller percentage of the Asian community than evangelical whites in the white population.
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:43 AM
 
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Sure, conservative compared to liberal whites, but nowhere as conservative as conservative Evangelical or Mormon whites.
You're forgetting that the US is in itself mostly conservative compared to many parts of the world. I remember the gay marriage debate being a bit strange considering the progressive movements surrounding marriage in both Europe and India.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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You're forgetting that the US is in itself mostly conservative compared to many parts of the world. I remember the gay marriage debate being a bit strange considering the progressive movements surrounding marriage in both Europe and India.
True, the US as a whole is more conservative than Europe, Canada, and Australia, but keep in mind I lived all my life in California, which is far to the left of the US. California appears "conservative" mostly because it's forced to abide by conservative federal laws enacted by Texas, the rest of the South, Utah, parts of the Midwest, etc. If California got independence, it would easily be at least as liberal as Europe or Canada.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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The length of democratic practices is a fraction in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan in comparison to the West. Especially Korea and Taiwan, two brutal former dictatorships. There's a reason why all the liberal countries are successful democracies.
Oh really? Are we forgetting that Fascist Spain persisted until 1975? Or that the Eastern half of Europe was entrenched in totalitarian rule until 1989-1991? And that Russia is still a sham democracy?
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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My experience is that East Asians can be very "conservative" (by western definitions) within their own families (though it varies from family to family), but generally take more of a live-and-let-live attitude ("liberal" or arguably "libertarian") toward those not within their family. They don't have the tendency to want to impose their morals on strangers the way many "conservatives" in the US do.
Exactly. A lot of ultra-liberal, pro-choice activists actually are personally opposed to abortion (i.e. wouldn't do it themselves, wouldn't want their daughter doing it) but are fine if some random woman does it. Ditto for pro-Cannibis activists--so many of them don't want to do it themselves, wouldn't want their kids doing it, but are ok if someone they don't know does it.

In their mind, it's none of their business to force their moral values on strangers. Asians tend to be this kind of liberal.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Oh really? Are we forgetting that Fascist Spain persisted until 1975?
Spain and Portugal are literally the only two exceptions, and they got out of it a lot earlier than both Korea and Taiwan did.

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Or that the Eastern half of Europe was entrenched in totalitarian rule until 1989-1991? And that Russia is still a sham democracy?
Not the West.
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Spain and Portugal are literally the only two exceptions, and they got out of it a lot earlier than both Korea and Taiwan did.


Not the West.
Eastern Europe is not part of The West? I don't know, but Eastern Europeans are white. A lot of them are blond and blue-eyed. A lot of white Americans and Canadians have Slavic ancestry, and many Midwestern towns have obvious Slavic influences.

If you said the Middle East was not the West, I would agree, but Eastern Europe is still Europe is still the West.

And what about Peronist Argentina or Pinochet in Chile, who was not overthrown until 1990? Both countries are very white, Spanish in culture. Definitely Western. Sure they've got some American Indians, but the US has American Indians and Asians and Hispanics, so the US isn't Western then?
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Old 06-22-2018, 04:36 AM
 
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Americans have an inability to differentiate people

they love labels

Asians, latinos, whites, blacks, and they cannot phantom that those labels do not really fit the enormous diversity of the people that fall within them.

Therefore arguments such as ASIANS *An enormous continent with over 4billion people* are conservative. And when he says conservative, he means US style conservative. *Because Americans also have a hard time not making it about the US*
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