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Old 06-10-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Hey, let's not get political here!

Better to discuss how Christian Arabs are or aren't at the same socioeconomic level as National-Religious or secular Israelis.
Most of the Christian Arabs have moved to the US. Don't you know that over 75% of the Arabs in the US are Christians and not Muslims?

Christians leaving Israel, the GS and the WB leave mostly due to Muslims and not Jews. All one has to do is look at Ramallah to when it was nearly entirely Christian and now there are very few Christians left in Ramallah.
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Old 06-10-2018, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Most of the Christian Arabs have moved to the US. Don't you know that over 75% of the Arabs in the US are Christians and not Muslims?

Christians leaving Israel, the GS and the WB leave mostly due to Muslims and not Jews. All one has to do is look at Ramallah to when it was nearly entirely Christian and now there are very few Christians left in Ramallah.
Quite a number of Christian Arabs have also moved to Australia. Another reason for their declining numbers in Israel and the Territories is that their birth rate is considerably lower than that of Muslims.
Today I read an article that stated about 1,000 Christians live in the Gaza Strip with about 1.8 million Muslims.
https://cruxnow.com/global-church/20...ic-run-school/
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Old 06-10-2018, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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Christians leaving Israel, the GS and the WB leave mostly due to Muslims and not Jews.
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Another reason for their declining numbers in Israel and the Territories is that their birth rate is considerably lower than that of Muslims.
Actually, the number of Christian Arabs in Israel is increasing even as in the rest of the Middle East (including the West Bank and Gaza) it's decreasing at a serious rate. In fact, Israel is the only Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians is growing. See this article, in particular the heading on Israel towards the bottom.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I think there should be an effort to reromanize the Mediterranean.



It shall be called Operation mare nostrum
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Old 06-11-2018, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I was watching some documentaries on these certain ultra orthodox type communities and I was really shocked at how many are on social assistance. It is really concerning. They really **** the outside world out and as a result can't really attain better employment. There is s lot of ignorance as a result ex not computers .... limited or no technology. Realky crazy cult like behaviour similar to that village of the Dammed movie.
In Israel, the Haredim also have political clout in that there are politicians who will go for their vote. Makes sense given that their high birth rate means that demographically they will be more important over time.

However, that doesn't always sit well with other communities in Israel. That they use a lot of social assistance resources as a lower income demographic + their educational training doesn't provide them with the skills and knowledge to get employed in many industrial or tech sectors, bugs a lot of other Israelis. And a lot of the males are exempt from military service, too.

Their more traditional views on social issues may clash with those of a more secular groups, too.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Do some of the Israeli Haredim use Yiddish as their main language?
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Do some of the Israeli Haredim use Yiddish as their main language?
More than some.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:59 PM
 
Location: DC metropolitan area
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Do some of the Israeli Haredim use Yiddish as their main language?
Redn di Haredim dortn dos mame-losh? Zikher, yo. Zie, tsum bayshpil: https://www.jpost.com/Features/In-Th...nd-the-Haredim.
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: DC metropolitan area
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Actually, the number of Christian Arabs in Israel is increasing even as in the rest of the Middle East (including the West Bank and Gaza) it's decreasing at a serious rate. In fact, Israel is the only Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians is growing. See this article, in particular the heading on Israel towards the bottom.
Yes, Jews are good neighbors for Arab Christians in Israel. They generally go to Hebrew schools, are the best educated of all Israelis, and earn a good shekel as a result. But Messianic Jews or Jewish Christians are treated somewhat like traitors in Israel: https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Di...ic-Jews-518129.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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I was watching some documentaries on these certain ultra orthodox type communities and I was really shocked at how many are on social assistance. It is really concerning. They really **** the outside world out and as a result can't really attain better employment. There is s lot of ignorance as a result ex not computers .... limited or no technology. Realky crazy cult like behaviour similar to that village of the Dammed movie.
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Poll: Most haredi rabbis in Israel use the internet

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/247350
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