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Old 08-22-2018, 10:35 PM
 
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Hong Kong has declined as a tourist destination for mainland Chinese.

My parents both got the permit to visit Hong Kong but they never went there. Meanwhile they have traveled to the US, Japan, Russia etc.
They almost went to Hong Kong a few years ago (that's why they applied for the permit) but at that time there were a lot of stories about mainland tourists treated badly in Hong Kong, and there was a hatred/worry toward Hong Kongers, so they never went there.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I like all three - Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

HK-SG seems very lateral to me. While there are major differences, Singapore suffers from being an highly urban city-state much like how Hong Kong operates.

The HK to Taiwan, in my opinion, operates much like the SG to Malaysia effect. People who work in highly urbanized cities, with busy working lives, and live in tiny small little apartments....begin to think, what if I just worked in a less busy place...and had a bigger house on less money, but felt more comfortable and more relaxed.

That's where Taiwan fits in.
Yep. And like the SG to Malaysia analogy, I think the Taiwanese are a bit more down to earth than their HK counterparts. I've lived in both HK and Taiwan, and I didn't appreciate this aspect until recently.
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Old 08-23-2018, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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It's a testament to how crap HK has become since the 2000s.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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It's a testament to how crap HK has become since the 2000s.
Meanwhile, Taiwan emerged as a paradise.
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Old 08-23-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Meanwhile, Taiwan emerged as a paradise.
Mercer's 2018 Quality of Living Survey ranked 230 cities around the world.

Vienna--#1
Zurich--#2
Singapore--#25 (#1 in Asia)
Tokyo and Kobe--tied for #50 (#2 in Asia)
Hong Kong--#71
Seoul--#79
Taipei--#84 (#1 in Taiwan)
Taichung--#101
Shanghai--#103 (#1 in Mainland China)

Taiwan is paradise? It couldn't even top Hong Kong for quality of life. If you said Singapore is emerging as paradise, agreed, 100%.

Ok, fine, Mercer's survey didn't account for cost of living, but what do you expect? Nice places like Zurich are obviously going to be super expensive.

Singapore is severely underrated, both globally, and especially by Hong Kongers.
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Old 08-23-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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those kinds of survey are meaningless. quality of living is very subjective. An asian would not want to live in Zurich. That place is boring

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Mercer's 2018 Quality of Living Survey ranked 230 cities around the world.

Vienna--#1
Zurich--#2
Singapore--#25 (#1 in Asia)
Tokyo and Kobe--tied for #50 (#2 in Asia)
Hong Kong--#71
Seoul--#79
Taipei--#84 (#1 in Taiwan)
Taichung--#101
Shanghai--#103 (#1 in Mainland China)

Taiwan is paradise? It couldn't even top Hong Kong for quality of life. If you said Singapore is emerging as paradise, agreed, 100%.

Ok, fine, Mercer's survey didn't account for cost of living, but what do you expect? Nice places like Zurich are obviously going to be super expensive.

Singapore is severely underrated, both globally, and especially by Hong Kongers.
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Old 08-23-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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LOL. A lot of Taiwanese are dying to immigrate the mainland for better life

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Meanwhile, Taiwan emerged as a paradise.
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Old 08-23-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Mercer's 2018 Quality of Living Survey ranked 230 cities around the world.

Vienna--#1
Zurich--#2
Singapore--#25 (#1 in Asia)
Tokyo and Kobe--tied for #50 (#2 in Asia)
Hong Kong--#71
Seoul--#79
Taipei--#84 (#1 in Taiwan)
Taichung--#101
Shanghai--#103 (#1 in Mainland China)

Taiwan is paradise? It couldn't even top Hong Kong for quality of life. If you said Singapore is emerging as paradise, agreed, 100%.

Ok, fine, Mercer's survey didn't account for cost of living, but what do you expect? Nice places like Zurich are obviously going to be super expensive.

Singapore is severely underrated, both globally, and especially by Hong Kongers.
Jaja, I was being sarcastic.
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Hong Kong has declined as a tourist destination for mainland Chinese.

My parents both got the permit to visit Hong Kong but they never went there. Meanwhile they have traveled to the US, Japan, Russia etc.
They almost went to Hong Kong a few years ago (that's why they applied for the permit) but at that time there were a lot of stories about mainland tourists treated badly in Hong Kong, and there was a hatred/worry toward Hong Kongers, so they never went there.
Well if the story below is believable, then for sure it is not always safe for Mainland tourists to visit Hong Kong. Pay special attention to the last few paragraphs, the information of which I wasn't even aware of.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...r-being-beaten
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Old 08-24-2018, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Originally Posted by MrJester View Post
Mercer's 2018 Quality of Living Survey ranked 230 cities around the world.

Vienna--#1
Zurich--#2
Singapore--#25 (#1 in Asia)
Tokyo and Kobe--tied for #50 (#2 in Asia)
Hong Kong--#71
Seoul--#79
Taipei--#84 (#1 in Taiwan)
Taichung--#101
Shanghai--#103 (#1 in Mainland China)

Taiwan is paradise? It couldn't even top Hong Kong for quality of life. If you said Singapore is emerging as paradise, agreed, 100%.

Ok, fine, Mercer's survey didn't account for cost of living, but what do you expect? Nice places like Zurich are obviously going to be super expensive.

Singapore is severely underrated, both globally, and especially by Hong Kongers.
Mercer's QOL survey is about as crap as HK's QOL lol. You can go ask any HKer in HK, many of them, if not most, will tell you that HK is practically hell. HKers don't move to Taiwan based on Mercer's report. Btw, no one is claiming that Taiwan is particularly good, so you can keep that for later.

And no you don't have to be super expensive to have good QOL. Vienna is at least 2 to 3 times cheaper than Zurich, for example. Purchasing power is usually not a good metric to determine QOL, but in HK's case, it is absolutely horrific.
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