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Old 12-07-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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I don't know if I will ever get around to it, but this conversation is relevant to my own desire to learn Mandarin. I had a Taiwanese friend in Macau who I could stayed with while studying, but even he had to use English since he doesn't speak Cantonese. I'm not experienced enough to know the accents really well, but have known some people from Taiwan who are children of KMT people and seem to speak "proper" Mandarin.

Years ago, I took an Mandarin class taught by a lady from Singapore. The Beijing accent was emphasized, but most of my Chinese friends don't speak the same way, although they mostly understand my limited vocabulary.

Living in Taipei for a while to study the language would be fun, but other friends have suggested Beijing U or places near it. Any advice?
For foreigners, there is no need to worry about Mandarin "accent" too much. You WON'T catch the native accents anyway.
It's like a Chinese student trying to learn English but worrying about Massachusetts accent or Texas accent, totally unnecessary. All the TV channels in China uses the same, standard Mandarin with the same accent.

For those who already speak Chinese somewhat fluently, you may think about "opportunities" in different places rather than just language improvement.

I like the city of Beijing very much. If I choose to live in China, Beijing would be my first choice. But it is expensive, massive, polluted, cold... not for everyone.
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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Taiwan also uses traditional Mandarin while China uses simplified
There is no traditional Mandarin vs simplified Mandarin. The spoken language is just Mandarin, the same thing (with minor regional differences, of course).
Only scripts are different.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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For foreigners, there is no need to worry about Mandarin "accent" too much. You WON'T catch the native accents anyway.
It's like a Chinese student trying to learn English but worrying about Massachusetts accent or Texas accent, totally unnecessary. All the TV channels in China uses the same, standard Mandarin with the same accent.

For those who already speak Chinese somewhat fluently, you may think about "opportunities" in different places rather than just language improvement.

I like the city of Beijing very much. If I choose to live in China, Beijing would be my first choice. But it is expensive, massive, polluted, cold... not for everyone.
Taiwan Mandarin is like Indian English, lol.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Taiwan Mandarin is like Indian English, lol.
Racist tbh.
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Old 12-12-2018, 01:19 AM
 
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Taiwan is a fine place to learn Mandarin. Actually, I would rather live in Taiwan than anywhere else in mainland China. OP's parents came from Taiwan, so it is very unlikely that he or his family will find any hint of Taiwanese accent unacceptable. TV news anchors in Taiwan speak excellent Mandarin with no hint of Minnan mispronunciations. Most people in Taipei below 50 years old speak Mandarin natively, and there are many who can't even speak Taiwanese/Minnan properly. Speaking Taiwanese/Minnan when they were in school was strongly discouraged. People who criticize Taiwanese pronunciation as being not "native" and claims that mispronunciations are common in Taipei due to being native Taiwanese/Minnan speakers instead of native Mandarin speakers are misinformed. Might have been the case 50 years ago, but certainly not the case today.
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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No offense, but Taiwan mandarin sounds really feminine to most chinese. So if OP is a guy, be careful.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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No offense, but Taiwan mandarin sounds really feminine to most chinese. So if OP is a guy, be careful.
Oh come now, really.

I can't imagine a betel-nut chewing male taxi driver sounding feminine.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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No offense, but Taiwan mandarin sounds really feminine to most chinese. So if OP is a guy, be careful.


You constantly hit new heights of embarrassment. It's brilliant.
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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You constantly hit new heights of embarrassment. It's brilliant.
There is truly a perception that Taiwan Mandarin sounds effeminate, and I am sure Taiwanese people know about the opinion too.
I am not saying such a perception is correct or good, but it exists.
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Old 12-14-2018, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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There is truly a perception that Taiwan Mandarin sounds effeminate, and I am sure Taiwanese people know about the opinion too.
I am not saying such a perception is correct or good, but it exists.
I know that, and that's a stereotype, aka untrue.

His problem is
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So if OP is a guy, be careful.
Fragile masculinity tbh.
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