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Old 01-07-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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I agree. I do not trust the CCP. Everyone is blinded by CCP money and soft power. They are so addicted CCP and cheap/slave labor, that they do not care what's its doing to the countries in the long run. Africa will be enslaved again except this time by the CCP. American corporations and politicians were greedy and let the heartland get raped. CCP has got to go. Xi can't even handle trump. What kind of son of heaven is he?






I blame the may 4th movement. Communists ruin everything. Just look at cuba. Prime beach fron real estate and great agricultural soil. They don't know how to manage it.
Thatís a fairly silly take on what China is doing in Africa and points to literally not knowing what enslavement entails. Slavery and cheap labor have very notable differences in the English language. Are you not fluent in English? What is your native and most proficiently spoken language? Perhaps I know it and can help explain to you the differences in standard American English usage.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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Thatís a fairly silly take on what China is doing in Africa and points to literally not knowing what enslavement entails. Slavery and cheap labor have very notable differences in the English language. Are you not fluent in English? What is your native and most proficiently spoken language? Perhaps I know it and can help explain to you the differences in standard American English usage.

vulgar latin
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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I have to be careful what I say because I am still in China, and things are quite sensitive these days...

Basically everyone, even in the gov't here, agrees that we're in for a rough ride in the coming years as China simultaneously grapples with a cooling/correcting economy and measures to re-centralize power via society and the economy. Of all major nations, China is probably better equipped to handle the difficulties facing it within its own legal and cultural frameworks - the US or EU are facing issues with a divided public and there isn't much that they can do to rein in either end of the social-political spectrum.

I have a vested interest in China's continued success, in no small part since my business, family, and life are centered here. But, I think that China played its hand a decade early in terms of its projections of strength and exceptionalism abroad; had it waited, then I think that much of what it's trying to achieve in global influence would have been a given. Because of how things are playing out now, it can still achieve its goals, but it's going to be more difficult.



They didn't really play their hands early. GW Bush actually planned to pivot to confronting China early in his administration but 9-11 happened and the Middle East took priority. A confrontation with the US was going to happen regardless and playing their hand right now isn't really a bad option for China because almost all of America's allies are in complete disarray (EU is a disaster and Shinzo Abe is an overrated leader). Also, Chinese influence in the Western world is going to remain at zero for the entire century regardless of the situation and I think the vast majority of Chinese leaders realize that. China will probably have massive influence in Africa (and maybe the Middle East) and Southeast Asia will probably be under its hegemony but outside of those regions, they are going to be limited and they will probably just try to consolidate their gains rather than expand further.
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Old 01-08-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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vulgar latin
Well, that's worth a laugh. Do you understand a smidgen of classical Latin?
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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They didn't really play their hands early. GW Bush actually planned to pivot to confronting China early in his administration but 9-11 happened and the Middle East took priority. A confrontation with the US was going to happen regardless and playing their hand right now isn't really a bad option for China because almost all of America's allies are in complete disarray (EU is a disaster and Shinzo Abe is an overrated leader). Also, Chinese influence in the Western world is going to remain at zero for the entire century regardless of the situation and I think the vast majority of Chinese leaders realize that. China will probably have massive influence in Africa (and maybe the Middle East) and Southeast Asia will probably be under its hegemony but outside of those regions, they are going to be limited and they will probably just try to consolidate their gains rather than expand further.

The middle east and afghanistan is a definte distraction. PRC was always the forefront. GW messed going into Iraq. He didn't even catch osama. It was a wasted decade in the US while China built valuable infrastructure.



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Well, that's worth a laugh. Do you understand a smidgen of classical Latin?





I read Ceasar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Xi has shown 0% commitment to any sort of liberal reform. China cannot be trusted as the world's hegemon. Starve the beast! Start giving us some form of "democracy" with "Chinese characteristics" or go rot in hell. I don't want my grandkids to grow up in a world bending to the whims of the CCP's machinations.

What you wish for is important but very difficult. Some political party and its media cronies would stop at nothing undermining the effort to confront China. They exaggerate the costs of the trade war and prefer fighting against Americans for short-term political pay-off.
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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What you wish for is important but very difficult. Some political party and its media cronies would stop at nothing undermining the effort to confront China. They exaggerate the costs of the trade war and prefer fighting against Americans for short-term political pay-off.

I don't really know how the CCP is not taking more advantage of trump. I thought they had smarter leadership. Xi was stupid for taking absolute power. Now he can blame no one as a scapeboat for when he messes up.


MAGA!
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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I'll tell you that I go to mainland China a couple times a year for work. I'm quite familiar with Shanghai and surrounding area. I have friends there, I know a lot of people there, and I dont' see any direct evidence of government control or any evidence of the population being concerned about what the government is doing. If anything, I've heard Chinese people criticizing the government when it suits them to do so ... something that you couldn't have done prior to the 1990s.
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Old 01-17-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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No, because they are inconsiderate, loud, have bad breath, and would drink donkey urine if told it was imported from America or Germany.
Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia entirely different story.
It sounds like you brainwashed yourself by freewill.
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I'll tell you that I go to mainland China a couple times a year for work. I'm quite familiar with Shanghai and surrounding area. I have friends there, I know a lot of people there, and I dont' see any direct evidence of government control or any evidence of the population being concerned about what the government is doing. If anything, I've heard Chinese people criticizing the government when it suits them to do so ... something that you couldn't have done prior to the 1990s.
It used to feel that way, but it's definitely changed in the last couple years or so, accelerating in the last few months. I think that the average person here, whether Chinese or an expat, has little to worry about, but it's certainly a different landscape.
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