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Old 04-19-2008, 11:37 AM
 
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I remember my history teacher saying unlike europe they didn't suffer from the black plague
Yes, that makes sense. The bubonic plague, or black death, actually started in fourteenth century China, and was spread westward by the Mongols. The culprit was the oriental rat flea. A link:

The Black Death (http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/fleas/bdeath/ - broken link)
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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China's population is stalling if not shrinking at this point, so don't expect any more growth there. China is actually one of the fastest aging countries in the world because of their 1 child policy.

The USA is growing rapidly (an anamoly for a first world country) but at the expense of demographic changes. More immigrants arrive on a regular basis, especially Hispanics and to a lesser degree Asians, while the white population has stabilized in numeric terms, but has shrunk percentage wise.
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Old 04-19-2008, 02:45 PM
 
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According to the U.S. POPClock Projection at the time I checked it, the US population was about 303,887,285. We will be far from hitting a billion in 50 years -- This study projects the US population will hit 438 million by 2050. Our fertility rate as of 2007 was 2.09 children per woman, which is just above replacement level, and yet is high for an industrialized nation. Immigration keeps our population boosted, but second-generation immigrants tend to have smaller and smaller families, just like their long-settled peers.

Poor countries tend to have extremely high fertility rates due to a number of factors: little or no access to birth control, traditional societies that emphasize a woman's place in the home, high mortality rates among children prompting parents to have lots of kids in order to get a couple that will live, etc. China, because of their One Child Policy, has been trying to keep a cap on their population. Now that they're quickly catching up with the rest of the world, their birth rates will probably fall naturally as more people prefer to live in urban enviroments, marry later, and have fewer children. China's population has been projected as about 1.4 billion by 2050, far outstripped by India's exploding population of about 1.6 billion by 2050. To give you some idea of how huge India's population is today, as of the 2001 India census there were 66,508,008 people in the state of Andhra Pradesh! That's one state! California, the most populous US state, only has 36,553,215 people! You'd have to add California and Texas together to equal or surpass Andhra Pradesh.
That was sort of a joke since we have 50 million undocumented illegals living in the US that don't get counted. So add that to your figures and you get 353 million people, and if the illegals keep comming at the rapid pace they are arriving we'll hit 1 billion in 50 years.
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:44 PM
 
Location: North of the hood, south of the valley
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That was sort of a joke since we have 50 million undocumented illegals living in the US that don't get counted. So add that to your figures and you get 353 million people, and if the illegals keep comming at the rapid pace they are arriving we'll hit 1 billion in 50 years.
There are probably no more than 10-15 million undocumented illegals currently in the US, and being undocumented doesn't necessarily mean that they are unknown to Census Bureau statisticians. The Social Security Administration has a fairly good idea where most of them are. There is a problem with illegal immigration, but it isn't that big (50m) - yet.

If the population of the US keeps growing at it's current pace (approx 0.9%/year) it would hit one billion in about 2140. If the US would stop illegal immigration it wouldn't hit one billion until 2170. If the US stopped all net immigration we wouldn't even hit 400 million.
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:01 PM
 
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[quote=kettlepot;3513974]There are probably no more than 10-15 million undocumented illegals currently in the US, and being undocumented doesn't necessarily mean that they are unknown to Census Bureau statisticians. The Social Security Administration has a fairly good idea where most of them are. There is a problem with illegal immigration, but it isn't that big (50m) - yet.

10-15 million are only the ones they know about, the other 30 million are in drop houses or hiding somewhere out in the range. Maybe in your backyard or neighborhood. They're scattered all over the country.
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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China's growth can be attributed to the fact that they have been around for a significant amount of time. During that time, they never had anything on the scale of the Black Death of Europe, and never entered any conflict that caused a large death toll (not in modern times anyway). Oddly enough, the world's largest countries (Canada and Russia) have relatively low populations.
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Old 04-20-2008, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Gulfport, MS
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10-15 million are only the ones they know about, the other 30 million are in drop houses or hiding somewhere out in the range. Maybe in your backyard or neighborhood. They're scattered all over the country.
Hah! And what are they doing out there on the range, living in holes dug in he ground? Getting fat on our healthy American sunshine? Feeding their kids on our prairie winds? Illegal immigrants are going to go where they can work, and they'll be counted. Regardless, this is not a debate about illegal immigration. The USA will not hit 1 billion within our lifetime, probably not within our children's lifetimes. We've got less than half the population of China or India, and our piddly birth rate isn't going to catch us up anytime soon.

The global population is expected to peak mid-century, and then drop off. As more and more nations modernize, birth rates will fall as people marry later and have fewer children. Keep in mind a disaster like the Spanish flu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia epidemic could wipe out a few million here and there. And of course there's always those two standbys, war and famine.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:16 PM
 
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They don't know how to use birth control.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:06 PM
 
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They don't know how to use birth control.

Interesting view considering China has had a "one child" policy for many years now.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:39 PM
 
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i've heard that they have a "one child" policy to stem the growth, but how did it get to be over a billion ppl? did everybody have like 15 kids prior to the "one child" policy?
Procreation - over the long haul!
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