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Old 11-11-2012, 12:06 AM
 
Location: City of Angels
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Yes it's amazing how populous some of those European countries were at the time. I heard that Prussia at it's height had like 60 million, almost as many as Germany today! Even in 1900 the UK had something like 35 million, I believe.
a better baseline would prolly be pre-industrial revolution. lets say 1800

europe 1800: 203 million
china 1800: 295 million

when you consider that theres around 500 million ppl of european decent living outside europe today, as opposed to only around 50 million overseas chinese, really not that much of a difference growth-wise.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:58 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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a better baseline would prolly be pre-industrial revolution. lets say 1800

europe 1800: 203 million
china 1800: 295 million

when you consider that theres around 500 million ppl of european decent living outside europe today, as opposed to only around 50 million overseas chinese, really not that much of a difference growth-wise.
That's true. According to the old racial classification:

Caucasoids:

Europeans + Middle East + Aryan Indians: 1 billion + 300 million + 900 million = 2.2 billion

East Asians, Malayo-Austronesians = China + Japan + Korea + SE Asia = 2.2 billion

Africans = Sub-Saharan Africa and African-descendants in the New World: About 1 billion
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Mount of Showing the Way
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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I'm not sure if I necessarily agree with the direction of the paths, but it's interesting. There are some similarities with language trees as well.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I always heard the American Indians migrated around 15 to 12 thousand years ago.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:59 AM
 
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That's true. According to the old racial classification:

Caucasoids:

Europeans + Middle East + Aryan Indians: 1 billion + 300 million + 900 million = 2.2 billion

East Asians, Malayo-Austronesians = China + Japan + Korea + SE Asia = 2.2 billion

Africans = Sub-Saharan Africa and African-descendants in the New World: About 1 billion

What he hell are you talking about, he said of european descent he didn't mean white people he meant, people from europe. Middle easterers did immigrate too, but no where the amounts of places like ireland germany, italy, and scotland..



Irregardless this has 2 very simple answers.

China and india have to of the largest, wettest, and well managed agricultural regions of the world.

The only places of comparison are the USA, europe, both with which have issues with short growing seasons, and shortages of water.

The second part is that it has the oldest well established populations with exceptionally long histories of terraforming. The roman aqueducts had nothing on chinese engineering.

China produces about a fifth of the worlds food, and has about a fifth of the worlds, population. This myth that china is over populated is a total nonsense.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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What he hell are you talking about, he said of european descent he didn't mean white people he meant, people from europe. Middle easterers did immigrate too, but no where the amounts of places like ireland germany, italy, and scotland..



Irregardless this has 2 very simple answers.

China and india have to of the largest, wettest, and well managed agricultural regions of the world.

The only places of comparison are the USA, europe, both with which have issues with short growing seasons, and shortages of water.

The second part is that it has the oldest well established populations with exceptionally long histories of terraforming. The roman aqueducts had nothing on chinese engineering.

China produces about a fifth of the worlds food, and has about a fifth of the worlds, population. This myth that china is over populated is a total nonsense.
Yea, they aren't the same thing (and he said it as much since he explicitly stated the old classification scheme) but Middle Easterners did migrate in very large numbers throughout the last few centuries. They are huge numbers in the new world from syrians, iraqis, lebanese, and palestinians who were mostly christians and all migrated as citizens of the ottoman empire and so aren't counted completely accurately. There was also a large amount of migration to parts of west and east africa, india, and southeast asia. These were huge amounts of migration, especially compared to how small the populations of the levant and parts of the arab peninsula used to be--in some cases, even with the massive population boom in the Middle East, you still have stats like 4 million Lebanese in Lebanon and 12 to 15 million people of Lebanese ancestry outside of Lebanon and mostly in the new world or 22 million Syrians in Syria and a diaspora of 17 million Syrian descent also mostly in the new world.
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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world population is getting bigger every year, and that's a big problem we all should be looking at, and think the best way, do make this work for a better future, for the people, and for the planet too.
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Western Oregon
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If China were as densely populated as New Jersey, it would have 3.7 billion people. New Jersey is by far the more populated place for its area. And note that New Jersey has a lot of fertile land, partly how it got to be called "The Garden State".
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yes, China's population isn't really unusual considering it's sheer size and area of arable land. Europe has similar densities over small areas:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D7wPyl_J79...aci%C3%B3n.png
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