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Old 06-15-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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people who say lebanese people are not arabic, should freaking read a book!
they speak arabic, not phoenician.
95% of christian lebanese are phoenician, muslim lebanese are arab.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Well, Central asians are ASIAN.
arabs are caucasian race, like turks, italians, ukrainians, russians, germans, austrians, irish.
middle easterners are middle eastern ASIAN, not white.
Turks originally are Asians, not "Caucasians"
( So Arabs are not Caucasians either; Semitic people are some kind of "subgroup" if you ask me...)
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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Turks originally are Asians, not "Caucasians"
( So Arabs are not Caucasians either; Semitic people are some kind of "subgroup" if you ask me...)
Turkic Turks still are Asian. It's the Indo-Euro peoples who inhabited Turkey before the Turkic tribes arrived who are "Caucasoid", or, obviously, Indo-European.
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Turkic Turks still are Asian. It's the Indo-Euro peoples who inhabited Turkey before the Turkic tribes arrived who are "Caucasoid", or, obviously, Indo-European.
Well, after being mixed with Turks ( under Islamic laws and harems,) who knows how much "Caucasoid" stock is left there.
Asian/African genes are so domineering.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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who knows how much "Caucasoid" stock is left there.
This is an interesting question. I haven't really noticed any Asian-looking Turks. Maybe it went the other way around--maybe it's Caucasoid traits that are dominant. I suspect the Caucasoid peoples far outnumbered the Turkic people when they arrived, so the Asian element got really watered down. But I've never been there or studied this question. This would be worth looking into. Thanks for a good research idea.

ok, here we go (see below). Very little Asian genetic material in Turkey, and even the Turkic peoples of Central Asia and Siberia have a lot of Indo-Euro admixture. So by the time they reached Turkey, they'd lost much of their Mongoloid characteristics, anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic...Turkish_people
http://www.counter-currents.com/2011...-of-the-turks/

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Old 06-15-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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This is an interesting question. I haven't really noticed any Asian-looking Turks. Maybe it went the other way around--maybe it's Caucasoid traits that are dominant. I suspect the Caucasoid peoples far outnumbered the Turkic people when they arrived, so the Asian element got really watered down. But I've never been there or studied this question. This would be worth looking into. Thanks for a good research idea.

ok, here we go (see below). Very little Asian genetic material in Turkey, and even the Turkic peoples of Central Asia and Siberia have a lot of Indo-Euro admixture. So by the time they reached Turkey, they'd lost much of their Mongoloid characteristics, anyway.

Genetic history of the Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Racial Makeup of the Turks | Counter-Currents Publishing
I don't see anything particularly "mongoloid" about Turks - they look more like MiddleEasteners/population of Caucasus to me ( with clearly present European element among them.) Another group of people that look close to that are Tatars ( Crimean Tatars in particular, ) but they have mongoloid type more prominent among them.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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I don't see anything particularly "mongoloid" about Turks - they look more like MiddleEasteners/population of Caucasus to me ( with clearly present European element among them.) Another group of people that look close to that are Tatars ( Crimean Tatars in particular, ) but they have mongoloid type more prominent among them.
Well that's the whole point. There is nothing mongoloid about Turks, because Turkey was full of indigenous Caucasoid tribes before the Turkic element came in, and even the Turkic element itself had a majority Indo-Euro genetic background from those early Indo-Euros who migrated to Asia from the Russian steppes after the last ice age.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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Well that's the whole point. There is nothing mongoloid about Turks, because Turkey was full of indigenous Caucasoid tribes before the Turkic element came in, and even the Turkic element itself had a majority Indo-Euro genetic background.
Turks definitely have European element among them, yet at the same time it's a mix with non-Europeans, whoever those non-Europeans are, even if they don't have clearly-cut mongoloid features.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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Census is a crock. My grandmother lives in the Appalachian mountains of VA, her DNA test and parents both confirm her genetics and ancestry to be 60% Finnish and 40-30% Mongolian--and or Altaiac /Altay Region (Central Asian?)

My grandmother looks Asian with very white skin. She could easily pass for half Korean, full mongolion or something to that effect! I could call her white or Asian.
Her asian is listed as Kazakh and Uzebek from Altay moutanins, yet she looks Asian not Turkish/middleeastern.
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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This is an interesting question. I haven't really noticed any Asian-looking Turks. Maybe it went the other way around--maybe it's Caucasoid traits that are dominant. I suspect the Caucasoid peoples far outnumbered the Turkic people when they arrived, so the Asian element got really watered down. But I've never been there or studied this question. This would be worth looking into. Thanks for a good research idea.

ok, here we go (see below). Very little Asian genetic material in Turkey, and even the Turkic peoples of Central Asia and Siberia have a lot of Indo-Euro admixture. So by the time they reached Turkey, they'd lost much of their Mongoloid characteristics, anyway.
Hmm.. my experience was quite different. When I was in Istanbul, I was actually surprised at how many Turks looked Asian. Most of them did look White, but a lot of them looked slightly, if not downright Asian. Maybe in southern Turkey it's different. IDK.

Anyways, as I posted sometime ago, Asian looks among the native population can be found as far West.
I've met a couple of Poles who looked half-Asian in spite of being 100% Polish. At least that's what they themselves said.
Another one I know who comes from Saxony (Germany) also looks half-Asian in spite of no admixture.
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