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Old 09-15-2008, 09:43 PM
 
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it was published by Tom Miller on Beijing's Sanlitun bar area in the Shanghai Morning Post, and of course denied by the Beijing police, but the story spread like wildfire on the Chinese blogs and newspapers, expressing incredulity and outrage.

Follow up reports couldn't do much because Miller didn't state any sources and later claimed they wished to be anonymous... BUT there was a bar owner who said he was told to monitor Blacks and Mongolians (who fitted the description of local drug dealers apparently) and made to sign a stamped chop promising: "to keep to curfews, not allow the illegal sale of drugs, and refuse certain known customers."


Its interesting to note after all the hoo-ha Miller wrote another report (of another anonymous source) from a police officer denying a ban (and some say thus covering his backside up from his earlier mistake).

If you can read Chinese the official pledges signed in all the Sanlitun bars are pictured here. It's definitely not a ban on Blacks and Mongolians as Miller reported it was:



In the end there is no proof for the verbal story, and no proof against it, due to the lack of the source.
However there are two theories emerging:

1. Its true and the bar owners/ patrons and Beijing police are collectively covering it up, and are breaking the law
2. Miscommunication / translation: verbally "to monitor Blacks and Mongolians coming in the bar" and also an official pledge to "ban certain characters" being read as one and the same as to "ban all Blacks and Mongolians" in Millers report.

The source:

Shanghaiist: More on the Beijing bar ban confusion

Last edited by Cornerguy1; 09-16-2008 at 08:38 PM.. Reason: copyrighted material
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:05 AM
 
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Are you criticizing the Chinese immigrants in Namibia or the commie Chinese government? You need to distinguish the two. I guess the Chinese are there to make money. You guys should be thankful they are building factories and providng jobs.
It is really hard to be thankful toward someone when you see stuff like this. How can the Namibians trust them when they make anti-black policies in China? If anything they should be suspicious of them. Why are they providing jobs and factories? I highly doubt they are doing it for the benefit of the Namibians, even though the Chinese government is very tolerant toward other cultures, right?
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:56 PM
 
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It is not that fragile subject at all many places and towns in USA are just simply forbids their black citizens. (there was even a commercial that involves Halle Berry) In Australia too many bars or resteraurants bans any colored customers. Hmm in France many bars ban any colored customers.

So Beijing is only joining the club not starting one.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:33 AM
 
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Default Rectify the wrong appraisal

I have to point out that the author may never been to China and just heard it by gossips.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:49 AM
 
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Hmm in France many bars ban any colored customers.
A myth. I am mixed race and my mother is black, we been in many bars, even in the small villages and we never have any problem.
Fox News is not the best channel to have info about France.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:34 AM
 
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Obviously the Chinese see Blacks and Mongolians as lesser than them but wtf...why do they think like that??
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:51 PM
 
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It's about time someone else has to deal with our crappy problems too.
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:08 PM
 
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guys, the story is most likely false or at the least misleading. They've already done follow up articles in China on it - see post 91
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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It's about time someone else has to deal with our crappy problems too.
What problems are you talking about?
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:39 AM
 
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I feel very surprise about what you say ,I guess nobody know this country Intensively, I find you trust media without any doubt .then you discussing this like chinese discussing you and you think it's interesting
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