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Old 08-22-2009, 09:29 PM
Location: In The Outland
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Kurdish kids of today.

This photo of Jewish Kurds was taken in 1905.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Location: East Nashville, Tennessee
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I do know that Kurds are caucasian just for reference and I always try to be kind.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:47 PM
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I know that there are some genius people out there among Kurds who is still having dreams about a free Kurdish country instead of thinking about Kurd's future in Turkey, Iran, Iraq. Almost all of them live in poor regions with very low living standards. In the past Kurds were really treated badly by the governments of those three countries.

In 1980, there was a coup and military banned speaking Kurdish. In fact Turkish military supports the conflict between Kurds and Turks, so it can control the country by nationalism.

Yeah, I live in Turkey and i am Turkish but who gives a **** about our state-government. My older sister couldnt finish college because our great and proud Turkish state-government thought wearing a headscarf in campus is against laws and secularism.

It is illegal to learn anything in mosques until you are 12.You can drink or have sex but you cant pray if you work as a military or justice officer. And it is almost illegal being a member of a religious group or a cult. So even you live in your own country, you are not free. So what is the point of having your own country then.

But now things are changing, new government is tring to rebuild peace again, letting Kurdish language in schools, in TV, in radio, in Newspapers, punishing officers who killed innocent Kurdish civillians.And let me tell you something, these are not easy actions. You gotta be really brave, they just caught some officers planing to assassinate the prime minister. Military, media, nationalist groups are threatening government.

Thanks to those nationalist Kurdish geniuses, the government is loosing its power and military takes more support everyday.

So you see how things work here, people are using both nationalist group against each other so they can have the power over this land...
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:58 PM
Location: Austin, TX
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Originally Posted by goodman2 View Post
I do know that Kurds are caucasian just for reference and I always try to be kind.
Actually Arabs also as a whole are sort of Caucasian looking.

I know they want their own independent state. And that they threw the "No drinking" part of the Quaran out of their culture, and are famous for their heavy hand in Alcohol.
I know they subside in the Northern part of Iraq, eastern Turkey, and western Iran.
I'm fairly sure they're pro-west, as a group.
I am opposed to a Kurddish state though, it would equate to a unstable Iraq. This would not be good, as I think Iraq has the potential to be the paragon of the Arab world.
I can't remember what I heard exactly, but the Arabs are really far behind economically.
The Finnish, a country of 6 million (the size of Dallas-Fort Worth), are economically stronger then much of the the Arab World. I read something like that somewhere.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by j_k_k View Post
I know that they're in a really terrible position relative to the US, because Turkey is a key US ally and to support an independent Kurdistan would alienate Turkey--even though, while there are no saints on either side, Turkey hasn't treated its Kurds well at all. Then there's the large Kurdish part of Iraq; the US has no wish to destabilize Iraq worse than it already is. At least twice and probably more often now, we have encouraged the Kurds to rebel then left them in the lurch. It's completely unfair to the Kurds, but it's realpolitik. I respect them for their toughness, and their willingness to assert their nationality in their region, and I really wish there were a win-win way for us to support Kurdish independence without completely screwing ourselves. Unfortunately, I can't think of one.
Not to be rude, JKK, but the Kurds are actually pretty fond of the United States in general (I'm a Sorani Kurd from Sulaymaniyah who was born and raised in San Diego)... There are even some roads in Kurdistan that are named after American states! The many other Kurds living in San Diego also like America for it's leaded intervention in the Iraqi Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Kurds were probably saved from Saddam Husseins genocide thanks to them, which is why we are forever grateful (the same thing can't really be said for Europe though, since they had a MUCH higher disapproval rate of the war than America...they also did a lot less). Unfortunately, the problem is that the American government doesn't love us back ENOUGH :-( . Also keep in mind that Turkey is a VERY tight situation for the U.S. since its hard to maintain a good relationship with two entities that downright HATE each other. Though I'm pretty sure that you already knew about all of this and that you respect America's participation in the war, I just wanted to make a point. :-) God bless the United States of America and God bless Kurdistan!
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:46 PM
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I'm hopefully going to be in Kurdistan this spring, the Turkish end of the territory between Van and Diyarbakir and looking forward to it. That whole end of Turkey is the most beautiful in my opinion. Have to admit that I know nothing about Kurdistan though.
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