Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
No, the bigger cause of concern for Singapore as it decides whether it would prefer to be part of China's sphere of influence or the USA's sphere is which appears ascending and which appears retreating. The events of the last week have certainly made that picture a lot more clear for them; and Harris, like everyone else in the current administration, has absolutely zero capacity for statecraft and is not likely to convince Singapore to bet on the USA.
No, the bigger cause of concern for Singapore as it decides whether it would prefer to be part of China's sphere of influence or the USA's sphere is which appears ascending and which appears retreating. The events of the last week have certainly made that picture a lot more clear for them; and Harris, like everyone else in the current administration, has absolutely zero capacity for statecraft and is not likely to convince Singapore to bet on the USA.
I do see my country leaning to the US over China though
No, the bigger cause of concern for Singapore as it decides whether it would prefer to be part of China's sphere of influence or the USA's sphere is which appears ascending and which appears retreating. The events of the last week have certainly made that picture a lot more clear for them; and Harris, like everyone else in the current administration, has absolutely zero capacity for statecraft and is not likely to convince Singapore to bet on the USA.
Why would Singapore side with a country who sides with the Taliban, has unfriendly relations with most of its neighbors and most western countries and is isolating itself from the global economy?
Why would Singapore side with a country who sides with the Taliban, has unfriendly relations with most of its neighbors and most western countries and is isolating itself from the global economy?
Probably because Singapore loves China's sick values a lot more than Western values. It's literally the only developed country that likes China.
Probably because Singapore loves China's sick values a lot more than Western values. It's literally the only developed country that likes China.
Around 3/4 of Singapore population is Chinese, so that is not really a surprise.
But geopolitically it makes little sense to align with China, when it is in conflict with most of its neighbors, is discriminating against foreign business, and is actively preventing its companies from raising funds abroad.
I think Singapore will play both sides if possible, but if it is forced to choose then the only logical option is the USA.
Around 3/4 of Singapore population is Chinese, so that is not really a surprise.
Around 96% of the Taiwanese population are Chinese.
Singaporeans likes China because they love authoritarian dictatorships and laws stuck in the 1950s and look down on democratic values. It's the only explanation. It has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. You are Scandinavian and you hate the Nordic model but love China’s nazism.
Last edited by Greysholic; 08-24-2021 at 11:31 AM..
Around 96% of the Taiwanese population are Chinese.
Singaporeans likes China because they love authoritarian dictatorships and laws stuck in the 1950s and look down on democratic values. It's the only explanation. It has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. You are Scandinavian and you hate the Nordic model but love China’s nazism.
Singapore's been more of a blended system than anything and is not quite an authoritarian dictatorship though it does lean that way compared to most of Western Europe. There is a pretty strong record of good governance and meritocracy within the Singaporean government though it does sometimes seem like it's a pretty small milieu of people that are part of that ladder. Posters like singaporelady are probably pretty far removed from the process of governance, but they aren't completely so.
There's a pretty large variety of government and political power that is not Chinese Communist Party authoritarianism, Nazi Germany authoritarianism and the social democratic Nordic model which also varies somewhat among the various Nordic nations themselves. In the several decades of Singapore's existence, the government and political process as well as social norms have become gradually though unevenly a bit more open and I think roping it into the same strata as China's much less democratic and transparent policies is counterproductive if the idea is that democracy and transparency are desired ideals. Singapore for the region of Southeast Asia is sort of middle of the pack and it's done so while being much more economically successful in comparison to the others. I guess that economic success is part of why it's such a lighting rod for criticism despite some of the countries in the region being far more egregious when it comes to authoritarian tendencies and human rights violations.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 08-24-2021 at 12:43 PM..
Singapore has been increasingly aligned over many years with the US as China tries to expand beyond its borders and exert dominance in SE Asia. We have a US naval presence in Singapore and navy personnel based on the island.
The US and Singapore conduct joint military exercises right here my home town of San Diego CA. And the Singapore Air Force has the use of fallback air bases in the US interior for training and emergency operations. We have your back little red dot.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
