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View Poll Results: Do you consider Philippine people Hispanic?
Yes 44 7.01%
Semi-Hispanic 143 22.77%
Not at all 441 70.22%
Voters: 628. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-02-2012, 10:23 AM
 
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interesting because some bantu speakers in east africa have this for "eyes"
kikuyu - (1)riitho (many)maitho
swahili - (1)jicho (many)macho
giryama - (1)dzitso (many)matso
kikamba - (1)itho (many)metho

 
Old 02-03-2012, 02:40 AM
 
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No way, they are Asian, everyone I know see them Asian rather than Hispanic
 
Old 02-03-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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°Many of the Philippines have Spanish surnames

°Philippine languages are replete with Spanish words

°Philippine cultures in general seem to be more "Latin" compared to other Asian nations.
They have been a Spanish colony for a few centuries, but it was not enought deeply "hispanized" (=becoming spanish); to retain the most important aspect of Spanish culture: the language.

The colonization has not bein enouth important to change the languages for Spanish as it happened in hispano-America.
That said, Spanish elements still exist, especially the catholic religion, but the country is still Asian. The same way Indonisia had influences from Arab/middle eastern countries, but limited to the religion, not enough to become an Arab-speaking country itself, like it has been in north Africa/
 
Old 02-03-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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I think the Filipinos should be considered at least "Semi-Hispanic".

One of the most important National Heroes of the Philippines was a man named José Protacio Rizal Mercado y Alonso Realonda, the typical name of any Mexican hero...

José Rizal was a Filipino writer, whose execution was one of the causes of the "Philippine Revolution" against the Spanish rule. Rizal wrote many works, essays and novels, and most of those works were in Spanish language!

Until before the World War II, the Spanish language was widely used by the elites of the Philippines. After the American occupation, there was a process of "Anglicization" of the society, and many people swaped the Spanish language by the English language.



Of course, Americans in the USA look to the Filipino immigrants and say: "Oh, no way that they are Hispanic! Look at their eyes! They have Asian eyes! And they speak English!"

But those Americans don't know that before World War II and the American occupation of the Philippines, the Spanish language was much more widely spoken there than the English language!


Of course the Filipinos are Asian. But they are also Hispanic at a certain extent. They are Latin-Asians, just like people in Mexico are Latin-Americans.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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They have been a Spanish colony for a few centuries, but it was not enought deeply "hispanized" (=becoming spanish); to retain the most important aspect of Spanish culture: the language.

The colonization has not bein enouth important to change the languages for Spanish as it happened in hispano-America.
That said, Spanish elements still exist, especially the catholic religion, but the country is still Asian. The same way Indonisia had influences from Arab/middle eastern countries, but limited to the religion, not enough to become an Arab-speaking country itself, like it has been in north Africa/
No actually the situation there is similar to what happened in Peru and other countries that had their own dialect in addition to Spanish.

Spanish WAS the lingua franca until the Americans arrived. The Americans worked hard to introduce English in the 50 years they controled the country. English and Filipino remain the national languages (Spanish was removed as a national language with the 1987 constition). They're too far from Mexico or Spain to have a lingual infuence from these countries.

So in the early prt of the 20th century I would agree that they are Latin-Asian, but not anymore. The American influence has been too great.

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Old 02-05-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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One of the most important National Heroes of the Philippines was a man named José Protacio Rizal Mercado y Alonso Realonda, the typical name of any Mexican hero...
Having a Spanish name was common, nothing special, back then, even today, it does not necessarily mean the person has Spanish ancestry or speaks Spanish.

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José Rizal was a Filipino writer, whose execution was one of the causes of the "Philippine Revolution" against the Spanish rule. Rizal wrote many works, essays and novels, and most of those works were in Spanish language!
Thats because every educated Filipino back then were educted in the Spanish language. No surprise.

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Of course, Americans in the USA look to the Filipino immigrants and say: "Oh, no way that they are Hispanic! Look at their eyes! They have Asian eyes! And they speak English!"
Thats because the don't look central or south American. You can't blame Americans for thinking an Asian looks Asian!

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Of course the Filipinos are Asian. But they are also Hispanic at a certain extent. They are Latin-Asians, just like people in Mexico are Latin-Americans.
Much like the removal of Spanish as the nationl language (1987 constitutionn), a lot of the Spanish influence in everyday culture has significantly deminished, to the extent they are simply just primarily Asian with some American and Spanish influlence. If you insist they are Latin-Asian then they should also be American-Asian. Seriously, there is much more American influence today.

Ironically, Spain's biggest influence appears to be in the name of the country, which was named after King Philip II.

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Old 02-05-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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I currently live in the Phillipines and it is the weirdest country to "categorize".
To me these people are Asian; they have the small stature of Asians and if you go into the countryside you would be hard pressed to know which Asian country you were in.
However, a LOT of Filipino's have other blood; some look northern Asian like Chinese, Korean or Vietnamese whilst others look black; a result of black American servicemen fathers in the main. to me they truly are the melting pot of the world.

I suspect that many Filipino's adopted Spanish names in the 400 years Spain ruled here; akin to most of Vietnam being called by the surname Nguyen, in honour of an ancient King.
I have never met a Filipino who comes close to being Spanish nor any who claim it in any seriousness.
The Americans did a good job of eradicating any Spanish language in the 50 years they were here & sadly Filipinos seem to think the only way to be is pseudo-American rather than an English speaking Asian nation.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Some Filipinos who "look black" are actually of Negrito or Melanesian descent, and are not the result of African-American admixture. The same goes for "black" people in Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, East Timor, and Indonesia.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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No actually the situation there is similar to what happened in Peru and other countries that had their own dialect in addition to Spanish.

Spanish WAS the lingua franca until the Americans arrived. The Americans worked hard to introduce English in the 50 years they controled the country. English and Filipino remain the national languages (Spanish was removed as a national language with the 1987 constition). They're too far from Mexico or Spain to have a lingual infuence from these countries.

So in the early prt of the 20th century I would agree that they are Latin-Asian, but not anymore. The American influence has been too great.


You have basically admited that Spanish was widely spoken in the Philippines before the American occupation, that worked very hardly to "erase" the Spanish heritage, and introduce the English language.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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You have basically admited that Spanish was widely spoken in the Philippines before the American occupation, that worked very hardly to "erase" the Spanish heritage, and introduce the English language.
Yes. You missed my point completely. That was over 100 years ago.
The americans in 50 years worked hard to replace it with english.
So 100 years ago you could call them Latin Asian, not anymore. Not even semi-Hispanic.
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