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View Poll Results: Do you consider Philippine people Hispanic?
Yes 44 7.01%
Semi-Hispanic 143 22.77%
Not at all 441 70.22%
Voters: 628. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-10-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Trimac20 View Post
Kind of personal, but I actually began my existence in the Philippines. I was most likely conceived although not born in the Philippines (long story). I've not visited since, but would love to.

By one half of the world I meant the Western Hemisphere.

I don't see any benefit in more Filipinos learning Espanol unless they want to move to the other side of the world.

The average Filipino is different from the average Latino.
My gran was Spanish and we spoke Spanish until I was 7. She died and overnight we stopped speAking Spanish at home as it was only used to communicate with her. My sister was sent to a school where they learn Spanish fromf first grade.. She is far from fluent due to it not being useful there, useful communicating with her Honduran maid in Calif. so agreed its not a usefu
Language in Manila, but useful here.. I can order pupusas at Salvadorian restaurants like a local, though I'm told my accent is Colombian. Lol.

 
Old 02-11-2012, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Hell
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Wink I'm done for the next few months.

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Where did you see that Filipinos have it easier ,I grating to the US? I have not heard of any special immigration status for them.

I looked at the INS website.. Nara. If u know something let me know, I have friends who'd want to come over in a heartbeat, but they even find it hard to get a visitor visa, albeit a permanent residence visa.
minibrings, I'll let you know when I have the time so your friends can come in a heartbeat in the good ol' USA. Yep, the USA is pretty much done with their 'manifest destiny' but we're still busy with some other things such as :

1) overthrowing Syria, Iran and North Korea...I think that's about it.
2) we're still getting out of the mess that idiot, George W. Bush Jr., has done to my country, the U.S of A . It's the worst regime the U.S. has experienced in recent time. As an American, I sincerely apologized for the suffering this moron has done to the world.
- as soon as we fix 1) and 2), we'll see what we can do with financial mess in Europe and other parts of the globe. We owe you help. After all, America started that mess, thanks to Bush the Terrible.

Let me see, I started believing the Filipinos and Filipinas as just Asians. After reading all of the comments in the threads, I am convinced that Filipinos and Filipinas are also Hispanics and Polynesians. Filipinos are genetically related to Polynesians being members of the brown race called Austronesians (or Malay) as proven scientifically via genetic dna test. Spanish may have penetrated most Filipinos during 333 years of Spanish rule (America is only 230 years old). When the Gringo's invaded the islands, they did a good job erasing the Spanish contribution to the Philippines - a country they created from scratch. The locals must have spoken Spanish due to their conversion to Catholicism. You need to know Spanish in order to worship in a catholic church during that period.

I wished I could post a photo of my family ... we're an 'odd' mix of several groups.

I'm taking time off for several months to take care of some "business"

The P.I. has a bright future. It's predicted to become somewhere between the 11th-15th largest economy in the world by 2050. I believe it's gonna happen. Just by looking at the number of skyscrapers popping up all over the country not just in Metro Manila. If you guys can't come in the U.S, you can always live in the P.I., it's socially genetically an open society unlike Japan or Saudi Arabia.

btw, My dad speaks fluent Spanish. From my Tagalog, I find it very easy to learn Spanish. I could read and speak Spanish without understanding all the words. I learned Spanish in high school in the U.S.

Adios Amigos! Sasusunod na lang!
 
Old 02-11-2012, 12:56 PM
 
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Actually, due to the similarity, Spanish can be very easy or very difficult for Filipinos to learn. My husband is one who has a very difficult time with it. It's too similar yet different, and he can't get the Tagalog out of his head enough to get the Spanish. This is a common problem when there are many similarities in the languages.

I do not consider the Philippine culture to be obviously Asian. Sure, it has some similarities. However, it has many differences.
Personally, I find it very easy to learn Spanish with my Tagalog. I don't even need to know all of the words and yet, I can speak and read Spanish fairly well.

Philippines is probably the only country in the world that's difficult to classify (maybe the U.S.A).
 
Old 02-11-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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They seem to like to have a mix of influences, Theres quite a lot of mixed spanish filipnos too in the phil as well . You can see the spanish blood in quite a few of the tv presenters in the phil. I like the Kfc stores from the americans when I visit there. there quite popular with the filipinos as well as mcdonalds and there making money. But the filipino brand of fast food jolly bee is still number one in fast foods for filipnos in the phil Its a strange mix of influences, but under the christianity religion it works well.
Yes, you see Roman Catholicism from the Spaniards runs deep in the P.I. Catholicism and the Philippines are synonymous (despite the existence of other religions such as Islam). You need to know Spanish in order to worship in a Roman Catholic church during Spanish rule. Even to this day, Spanish is still used during some chants and religious singing . Local language was also used during church worship but still Spanish is integrated during chants and singing...I used to be an altar boy when I was at the P.I. (in a barrio , in fact). The Americans demonized Spanish influence when they invaded the P.I. They must have erased a lot of stuff in history books to make it look like the majority of the Philippines didn't speak the Spanish language. The gringos practiced cultural genocide in the Philippines.

Yeah, a lot of the filipinos in the entertainment industry are of mixed European ancestry (mostly Spanish and European Americans). Some Filipino-Americans make a living in the Philippine entertainment industry.

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Old 02-11-2012, 09:19 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I actually know very little about Filipino genetic history. Indigenous Filipinos were of the 'Negrito' variety, found also in Formosa (Taiwan), Indonesia and Malaya and, a long time ago, Cambodia and southern Vietnam. Polynesians are an off-shoot, largely composed of people of mixed Negrito/Astraloid and Asian/Mongoloid phenotypes. All ultimately have their origins in Asia of course.

The Philippines population now is a mix though...
 
Old 02-18-2012, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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I actually know very little about Filipino genetic history. Indigenous Filipinos were of the 'Negrito' variety, found also in Formosa (Taiwan), Indonesia and Malaya and, a long time ago, Cambodia and southern Vietnam. Polynesians are an off-shoot, largely composed of people of mixed Negrito/Astraloid and Asian/Mongoloid phenotypes. All ultimately have their origins in Asia of course.

The Philippines population now is a mix though...
There's only 1 tribe in Taiwan Aborigines that speak the Malayo-Polynesian, the "Yami Tao" tribe and this tribe came from the Philippines from Itbayat Island of Batanes, Northern luzon. The rest of the Taiwan Aborigines speak Formosan, Now, scientist were still checking where the malayo-polynesian language which is a subgroup of Austronesian started.

What i understand with Malayo-Polynesian (Malayo came from Malay Archipelago which is now Maritime Southeast Asia or Island Southeast Asia which consists of Malaysia, Brunei, East Timor,Indonesia and Philippines) and (Polynesian from Micronesia, Melanesia and Polynesia). but the Malayo-Polynesian language expand till Madagascar and Maori in New Zealand.

We are like separated with the Polynesian due to our geographic location as part of Asia. Our linguistic evidence and some scientific evidence shows that we actually shared something with the rest of our fellow Island Southeast Asians & Pacific Islander neighbors.
 
Old 02-22-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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Wink Malagasy - Indonesian



These Malagasy people are pretty much indistinguishable from most Indonesians.
 
Old 02-22-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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Wink white - fotsy - putih

The video "Antanifotsy" reminds me of the word for white in the Austronesian languages.

Malagasy: fotsy
Indonesian/Malay: putih
Tagalog: puti (?)


The similarity between fotsy and puti may not be immediately evident when one doesn't know that:

o is pronounced as u in Malagasy

ts is a single phoneme [instead of t+s] in Malagasy. It sounds similar to t.

at the end of a word i is always written as y. Thus Malagasy instead of Malagasi.

f in Malagasy corresponds to p in Malay/Pillipine languages. Thus the word for "ten" is pulu in Malay/Indonesian and folo [o=u!] in Malagasy.
 
Old 02-22-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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As a Latin American, I don't consider them Hispanic. I know they had had Spanish rule for a long time and everything, but at least at first impression, Philippine people seem to me so distant and exotic in almost every sense. Nothing to do with Latin America. It's just my impression, at least (and I guess that of most Latin Americans). There hasn't even been a considerable amount of immigration (or none at all, perhaps) from there to Latin America, AFAIK.
 
Old 02-23-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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Not... Less than 4 % of the Filipinos has Iberian ancestry and Spanish speaks as mother language
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