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From the point of view of "pagan": the Science and technologies it isn't rational.
For example: to make the device which will accept fluctuations from the earth and Flors ...
For this purpose is necessary: to Steal intelectual the property.
To make financial gamble.
To pollute the nature.
What is necessary for "pagan" ?
The answer - silence and rest.
Earth, stones, water, flora - all live and communicates... No, they as ... do the silly, dangerous and harmful inventions that will receive the same result.
I tolerate wiccans and pagans more because at least they have thought about what they think is right as far as religious beliefs. They haven't just accepted what they were born into. The bad thing is that they actually have thought about it and still opt for some kind of religion instead of just admiting that all religion is wrong.
"Pagans" are not religion (certainly there was an influence from outside). This such... Natural sciences about environment. it can't be applied to people living in other environment. Therefore it doesn't extend.Yes, yes, yes... To be a greedy monkey - it is very correct.
Well what I know about pagans there is lot of different kind of pagans so I cannot say what I think about them generally. My grandmother was pagan and all what she did was not so "nice" but pretty harmless anyway, LoL... So I know some things but I do not literally believe those things I rather do some things to be close to my grandmother and because some stories and ways are funny/touchfull/ what ever.. I have done lot of things just for fun I think some of things are created just for fun, people have to be funny when they live
I feel the same about them as much as I do about every other religion...as long as you don't impose your beliefs on me or overall societies rules itself then its fine by me.
I agree, mgt04. Actually, my older daughter, who briefly was a practicing Baptist Christian, eventually rejected all the formalized, codified Christian strictures [and outrageous beliefs in the literal bible...] and was "without a spiritual outlet" [her words] for a while.
Then, at about 28 yrs of age, she investigated Wiccan, and eventually became one with high initial entusiasm. Now, as she's achieved 37 yrs of age, and is raising 3 kids, she's relaxed a bit. This is also accompanied by the intelligence and life-experience to see that there's no big rush to require such interaction with the mystical world, so she simply partakes of Wiccan for her own personal enjoyment. For her, it's fun.
This is not ever expressed as an attack on the beliefs (or non-beliefs) of others. There's never any Wiccans knocking on my door with silly pamphlets showing a lion walking with a lamb ("Mmmmm!!! Dinner, and rare-on-the-hoof too! My favorite!"). Never any judgments of others, and they NEVER show up at PTA meetings insisting their oddball disproven beliefs should be forced on others. Never an insistence that our Founding Fathers based this country on chanting around a fireplace, even with the direct evidence of the Pilgrim Society's grim witch hunts & trials.
So I say: live and let live, and on top of that, since they certainly do NOT sacrifice cats or drive stakes into the hearts of others, they are quite harmless. Fact is, they possess a distinct reverence for natural life, which the various Christian religions do not, preferring instead to Lord it over "the lesser animals", as if they had that right, oft claimed by Christians.
Nope: Wiccan is quite fine by me, if you happen to need external spiritual input and group membership in a like-minded society.
God bless 'em!
Last edited by rifleman; 01-11-2011 at 08:16 AM..
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rifleman: My "familiar" (Willy, the 'evil' black cat) and I thank you! I agree with concerning the admirable Wiccan "reverence for natural life". It beats arrogantly thinking of ourselves as 'crowns of creation'. Some of Wicca is mumbo-jumbo, but it's harmless and generally well-meant.
Being Agnostic I'm more curious about them than other religions. IMO, they hold reverence for people and nature. I would be converted to Paganism or become a Wiccan way easier than any other religion. Not to worship something but to be a part of a group who respects the natural progression of life.
But hey, that’s just me.
I hear you. Makes sense to me. But most atheists I know have the same respect for Nature, not as a god but as reality.
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I think some of things are created just for fun, people have to be funny when they live 
I agree with concerning the admirable Wiccan "reverence for natural life". It beats arrogantly thinking of ourselves as 'crowns of creation'. Some of Wicca is mumbo-jumbo, but it's harmless and generally well-meant.
