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I am an atheist and most certainly NOT a libertarian
There are 2 types of libertarians in America. The Fundamental right wing lunatics, and the true "don't tread on me" libertarians. I am not either.
The government is not perfect, but it does a lot of things correctly that it doesn't get credit for. There are alot of edifices of "society" that I enjoy everyday that would not exist without the federal government.
If you want to look at a REAL libertarian society in practice, just look at Indian Reservations. They embrace every true libertarian ideal. No federal government, and a small and weak centralized government. They are not nice places to live, especially if you are poor.
I am a LIBERAL who likes to practice common sense.
Some maybe. However I am not entirely sure either of them lead to each other in any general sense, but maybe it is likely that both have a common ancestor so to speak . . .
Well, you cropped my quote to exclude the common denominator that I had explicitly identified, namely Objectivist philosophy.
Guilty, Libertarian here, but Agnostic. I have tossed out both myths of government and religion. To me they are equal. I can tolerate them even see the need for them but I would prefer to limit them in my home and affairs. To me, religion and government, and their followers, parallel each other. To me, they both seek dominance and control, they both require leaders and servants, they require YOU to give money so the entity can grow; all in the name of others or “doing the right thing”. Even there in the phrase, “Doing the right thing” IMO is a step too far, telling me what is right and what is wrong. I am the center of my life, who best knows it than me, who best knows right from wrong than me, in my life. Religion and government, stay out, I am my own keeper! If you need help and I can give it, I will, gladly! (but my family comes first!)
Guilty, Libertarian here, but Agnostic. I have tossed out both myths of government and religion. To me they are equal. I can tolerate them even see the need for them but I would prefer to limit them in my home and affairs. To me, religion and government, and their followers, parallel each other. To me, they both seek dominance and control, they both require leaders and servants, they require YOU to give money so the entity can grow; all in the name of others or “doing the right thing”. Even there in the phrase, “Doing the right thing” IMO is a step too far, telling me what is right and what is wrong. I am the center of my life, who best knows it than me, who best knows right from wrong than me, in my life. Religion and government, stay out, I am my own keeper! If you need help and I can give it, I will, gladly! (but my family comes first!)
Are you a member of the Libertarian party of America?
If so, how did you reconcile their supposed ideals and their nominaton of Bob Barr, a neo-conservative politician who actually WROTE the Defense of Marriage Act preventing gay marriage from being recognized by the federal government EVEN IF the state in question approved it?
Not attacking you. Just wondering.
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Overall, I would tend to identify most closely as liberal, but with some strong libertarian tendencies.
I belief that markets should be regulated, and that some programs for the public good are best left to government (highways, national defense, environmental protection).
I object to government interference in most personal aspects to life. The government should stay out of our bedrooms, let people consume drugs if they want, support marriage as a contractual arrangement between any 2 adults (and maybe more).
Overall, a bit of a weird mixture from the standard left:right debate.
Neither does his son
Abortion | Rand Paul 2010 | U.S. Senate (http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/a-g/abortion-2/ - broken link)
Both are against federal intervention, but they want the states to pass laws about it. How is that libertarian?
For starters, the Libertarian Party is not the final word on what constitutes a libertarian position. Second, both pro-and anti-abortion positions can be squared with libertarian philosophy. The fundamental basis of libertarianism is the protection of life, liberty and property. If you believe a fetus is a living being, then protecting that living being is consistent with libertarian philosophy. If you do not, than being pro-choice is also consistent with the libertarian principle of the right of bodily integrity.
For starters, the Libertarian Party is not the final word on what constitutes a libertarian position. Second, both pro-and anti-abortion positions can be squared with libertarian philosophy. The fundamental basis of libertarianism is the protection of life, liberty and property. If you believe a fetus is a living being, then protecting that living being is consistent with libertarian philosophy. If you do not, than being pro-choice is also consistent with the libertarian principle of the right of bodily integrity.
While you might argue that protection of life is Libertarian in terms of abortion, I don't think Libertarians can support state interference (even in the case of the States not the federal government)
I'm an agnostic, but hold no brief whatsoever against the faith-abiding. I am also probably best described as a Libertarian. I'm not quite fully in the Libertarian camp insofar as I don't share their isolationist tendencies. On that count I'm more of a Reaganite Conservative.
(And yet Reagan was a religious man so go figure.)
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